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Details of 3ma13 have now been added to the website. Please have a look at the News (http://www.131mirafiori.com/news19.htm) section for details of 3ma13 and look at the Travel and Accommodation (http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm) section for the special all inclusive hotel deal.

We must thank Robert and Ingrid for rising to the challenge and taking on the organisation of 3ma13 and for so quickly organising all the details of what promises to be another great 3ma. Robert and Ingrid have already planned all 4 days of 3ma13 and of course negotiated a very special hotel deal for us. I'll let our organisers give you more details.

Thank you very much Robert and Ingrid, I'm very much looking forward to 3ma13 and already started planning the 1200Km drive to Miesbach. I'll probably have an overnight stay somewhere in Northern Germany for the drive there but I need to be back in the UK for the 13th of May so it'll probably mean a very long non-stop drive back on Sunday the 12th  :-\  Still, there's plenty of time to plan all that.....

Great!!!!!  :D

First car to arrive  ;)

That's great news Tansy, me and the super are looking forward to it already :D, I think along scenic drive there & back is called for ;D

Who knows I may have a sport on the road what a decision that would be ???

Whooooooooooooooooo shall i take this time ???????????????????????

  and 747 mile s there on google maps  :o

Thanks Theo for the introduction and your kind words! We are very happy to make 3MA2013 happen close to (and one half day in) my hometown. There's something for everyone I suppose; at this very moment I cannot reveal everything we are planning, but among other events there will be a visit to the BMW works in Munich, scenic drives around the lakes south of Munich, moderate alpine driving, visiting one of King Ludwig's world famous castles and some other interesting sites, visits to famous beer brewing monasteries and a surprise fun event  ;)

This weekend we finalized the hotel deal (details in the Travel and Accommodation section) and did some reconnaissance driving, finishing two of the four planned trips. Here are some appetizers:

Driving south on the Autobahn (yes, in September the weather is perfect):

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec01.jpg)


Linderhof Castle, one of the Castles King Ludwig II had built (and the one we are planning to visit):

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec02.jpg)


Driving into Austria:

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec03.jpg)


Neuschwanstein Castle, the most famous one, currently undergoing restauration and thus looking like a piece of art by Christo (works to be finished by the end of 2012):

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec04.jpg)


The "Wieskirche", a country church looking insignificant on the outside and mindblowing on the inside (at least if you are not more into modern Bauhaus architecture like me):

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec05.jpg)


The "Museum of Art" (Buchheim Museum) on the Starnberger See, housing a marvelous expressionist art collection:

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec06.jpg)


The best thing to do with a BMW  ;D:

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec07.jpg)


Cattle going home in the afternoon:

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec08.jpg)


Presumably one of the lunch stops:

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec09.jpg)


A private toll road near the Sylvenstein Lake:

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec10.jpg)


Wooden bridge on the toll road:

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec11.jpg)


Lake Walchensee:

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec12.jpg)


The Walchensee  Power Plant, a hydroelectric power plant we are planning to visit:

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/3ma_rec13.jpg)


More pictures to follow in the next weeks.

Another interesting aspect (although I hope we will not need it): just a few hundred meters from the chosen hotel, a friend runs a garage, so technical assistance will be provided if needed.

We are very much looking forward to welcome you in my home country!

(http://www.oelprinz-online.de/images/fiatforum/minack.jpg)

Appetite has been duly whetted Robert.

Count us in.

And congratulations on being the quickest to organise a 3MA!! Looks like it is almost all done 8 months in advance of the event!!!  ;D

Nice pictures. I noticed the Mercedes star managed to make it onto the site in a few places :)

I love the area and have been many times before on summer holidays.

Unfortunately it looks like I won't be able to make it as my new job suffers from the same problem as my old job, no holidays other than in school holidays >:(

thats twice in 3 years i'll have to kick the tyre's and check the oil  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Did a reconnaissance trip today for the Mountain Day. As luck would have it, it was the worst day of the week, raining cats and dogs all day long (like it can happen in May sometimes  ;D), but in my opinion a drive that's worth it. Although the car was not best suited for the steep upgrades to be mastered, the Swedish freighter "VascoExpress" performed flawlessly - remember, it has done 260,000 miles up to now  :o. Here's the mediocre selection of pictures from a rainy, foggy day in the Alps - in sunshine (or without rain or fog) it's mindblowing! I enjoyed the journey nevertheless, hope all 3MA2013 attendees will do likewise  :)

This nice road (Germany's highest) goes up to 1560 m (1700 yd.). If I remember correctly the highest mountain in the UK is 1500 yd. and cannot be conquered behind the wheel of a car  ;)

The view on a clear day would be this:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/de/thumb/1/19/Rossfeldstrasse_Panorama.jpg/798px-Rossfeldstrasse_Panorama.jpg)

So planning for 3 of the 4 days is already in the final stage. Hope to supply some better pictures next time  :(

2 more:

If the weather is fine looks like a must do event!  ;)

Have you given any thoughts to an alternative in case we are unlucky with the weather Robert? Would we really face into such a challenge if there was nothing to see?

Even with the weather as it was it's looking very good to me  :) Looking forward to it even more now  :D

Looks absolutely fantastic. No excuses (probably) for me next year not to attend  :) ;) ;D

It about time you purchased a 131 to do it in then Rob  ;D

Simon

The purchasing of a 131 is very much on the agenda  :). However, as you know there are a few other 'matters' :-\ that need to be finalised  ;).

Even through the clouds the drive looks stunning, it won't be a problem as I am guessing the weather forcast for May is four days of sunshine  :D

A small update: here's a sample page from the roadbook I am preparing these days. It will look somewhat like this - suggestions welcome!

...any more reservations made? At the moment there are only 3  :o

That's a state of the art route book Robert.  :o

The pictures will help immensely and should assist when navigators lose their place on the "standard" route books. I can't imagine how much time & effort is being put into this by you though - Thanks on my behalf!  :)

Excellent

That is really a lot of work, Thank you Robert  :o

That certainly is an excellent road book. Nobody will have a good excuse if they get lost  ;D ;D

I'm sure everyone who will attend will thank Robert for this, not just Kevin  ;D You certainly have my thanks as well  ;)

Don't worry about the slow take-up Robert. It's like that every year. It's like English buses, nothing for ages and then they all come at once  ;D Most people leave it to the last minute to book. I'm also guilty of this  :-\ I haven't booked yet but barring natural disasters I'll certainly be there  :D

Theo is correct, people tend to leave things until nearer the time  :-\

Going on 3MA 2013 is certainly on my radar  ;D ;D :D :D

Not sure I'll have a 131, and Mrs Rob 131 will probably want to join in  :o :o

Non 131-owning enthusiasts and especially ladies are most welcome  ;) :D

In this case we are talking about a non 131 owning lady who is also no enthusiast of the great cars  :D :D

Prefers the 4 Rings.

I just spoke to a very nice lady called Cecilia and we are now booked in for 3MA13!  :)

The countdown is on......

I must start looking for ferry deals now.... :)

me too  :D

i saw all this nice pictures from the streets around Miesbach so i have also decide to come!
I'm looking forward to seeing you all again.

Enzo  ;)

I just booked the hotel too  :D (I think  :-\)
Now to book the ferry before our discount code expires.....
Just over 120 days to go.... doesn't seem long!  :D

Wonder if you can turn the meeting 3ma13 with 131 gr.4 with roll on normal roads (respecting the road)?
Also, if there is no place to park trucks transport vehicles?  ;D

for me i go to Miesbach with the trailer, but then we rock the streets!  ;D

Interesting. :D
There is also the possibility of small challenge in closed path? ;D

3MA2013 will not include any high speed contests or similar trials. German law is very strict about that. There will be some amount of "spirited driving", for sure, and we do plan a little fun event; but this will not be on closed roads, and the rules of the road have to be strictly observed. There is no race track in Bavaria  - and Bavaria is no race track!

To make a clear statement, I had this translated into Italian (by google, looks not that bad:)

3MA2013 sar? non comprende i concorsi ad alta velocit? o prove simili. Diritto tedesco ? molto severa riguardo. Ci sar? una certa quantit? di "guida grintosa", di sicuro, e lo facciamo pianificare un piccolo evento divertente, ma questo non sar? su strade chiuse, e le regole della strada devono essere rigorosamente osservati. Non vi ? alcuna pista in Baviera - e Baviera non ? pista!

Thank you for writing in Italian, but consider that in 20 years of driving (DE) I never got a ticket and when I do the "crazy" I only do it in suitable places.
It's OK, I'll have to settle the road, which is quieter ;D

I think "doing a crazy" might become the 3MA13 catch phrase.  ;D

I think most attendees understand that all need to respect the rules of the road but I think as organiser Robert you are correct to make your point clearly as you have.

Roll on May.... :)

Robert you can be sure  ::)

we will drive like the street legality  :-X

but if we found a closed place (private property) and the owner say OK,  we rock the street.  ;D

Enzo  ;)

Some update on the booking situation.

At this very moment we do have 10 (ten) confirmations for 3MA2013. We had blocked 15 rooms with an option to block some more, but this has to happen before April 1.

The lucky 10 are:
- Theo
- Simon
- Kevin&Jacqui
- Phil&Tansy
- Jason
- Heini
- Norbert
- Enzo
- Werner&Gisela
- Robert&Ingrid

So, up to now only 4 ladies  :o - 3MA is becoming a boy group thing  :(

If you are booking your room, please ensure to quote "3MA2013" to get the negotiated arrangement. I hear some confirmations sent out did (for whatever reason) not include the dinner arrangement; however, I talked about this today to the hotel manager and he assured me that everyone on the 3MA2013 ticket will get the full arrangement. If you encounter problems, please do not hesitate to contact me; either via PM or via email (robert.bardorf@gmx.de).

Looking forward to seeing the hotel parking full of 131s,
Robert

Hi Robert - To me that sounds like a healthy number of bookings at this stage. I'm sure there will be more closer to the time along with day trippers, sight see-ers, etc... :)

Before booking and give certainty to participate, wonder what it cost to enroll in the meeting and what it costs the hotel to sleep in a double room.
As regards meals, if they are included in the hotel or if they are carried out in the company in other places.
Also how many kilometers are planned for the revolution (rpm) in the days of the event, to calculate the costs of fuel. ::)

There is also opportunity to get close to the park and car carrier (truck and trailer) for the day of the event?
So I value the company of other friends with the 131S ;D

Hi Valentino

Have a look at this page and see if it answers your questions.... :)

http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm

The problem is that the page does not allow me to copy and paste and then translate it into Italian. :'(
I also thank Robert for additional information, so if I understood it, the inscription is included in the cost of the hotel, it would be 60euro per person per day (x5 = 300euro) in a double room with breakfast and dinner in the evening, including secure parking and internet access (if single room, 85euro per day).
The lunches at noon are all part and are carried around during the event, calculating an average of 200km per day, we must calculate about 3/4 of fuel (30-35 liters), so I ask if there is gasoline with a high number octane, its cost in that area and the ability to fill the late evening.
Thank you. :D

That looks about right Valentino although I had not realised that lunch was included.

Cost is obviously important but I think it's impossible to put a value on these events. They are always lots and lots of fun and it's only a matter of time before Angela Merkel dreams up a way of taxing them!  :)

If you come do you think you might have any 131 company from Italy?  :)

Che appare sulla destra Valentino anche se avevo non realizzato che il pranzo ? stato incluso.Costo ? ovviamente importante, ma penso che sia impossibile mettere un valore su questi eventi. Sono sempre un sacco e un sacco di divertimento e di solo una questione di tempo prima di Angela Merkel sogna un modo di tassare li! :)Se venite pensi che si potrebbe avere qualsiasi azienda 131 dall'Italia? :)

Before informing other friends with their 131, I have to understand what it costs the event in general, partly because I then explain to the parties concerned and make them understand that it is a week, then off work. :'(
In addition to these costs, we must consider the possible cost of auto transporter, because if they all come with Abarth Rally, not all aprezzano the highway, so you have to be careful not to exceed the cost too much and the "consumption" of the 131R. :-[
Moral costs hovering around the 1.500euro to crew for me is not a big deal, but for others it can be friends. :-X

Boys,

don't get this wrong - LUNCH IS NOT INCLUDED!!! It never was and it never will! I stated this also clearly in a PM to Valentino:



Don't know how he got that wrong.


There is a SHELL station offering "V-Power" near the hotel (1 km), they are open until 10 p.m. as far as I know - will check this ASAP. There is also an ARAL station offering "Ultimate" 7 km away. Fuel costs I do not know what it will be in May; at the moment, stations in Miesbach charge 98 octane petrol at 1.63?, V-Power at 1.74? per liter.

V-Power is ok ;)

Il sito ha un built-in funzione translate (alimentato da SLA e Google ). C'? un pannello nella home page con un menu a discesa che consente di selezionare la lingua desiderata. Sembra che questo

(http://x.co/rvdb)

o in italiano

(http://x.co/rvdn)

Ecco un link al sito web tradotto in http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/&sl=en&tl=it&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/&sl=en&tl=it&hl=en&ie=UTF-8)

ed ecco un link alla pagina di Kevin inviato

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=it&u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm&usg=ALkJrhi7AZBv6fWXhTxJmkaYR9PR9sR1_g (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=it&u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm&usg=ALkJrhi7AZBv6fWXhTxJmkaYR9PR9sR1_g).

Quando si utilizza il built-in funzione di traduzione per il sito web, i messaggi del forum saranno inoltre tradotti (? qui la sede in http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=it&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.131mirafiori.com%2Fsmf%2Findex.php%3FPHPSESSID%3Dj9d94n62v3m34t5ie8o54kvfb7%26 (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=it&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.131mirafiori.com%2Fsmf%2Findex.php%3FPHPSESSID%3Dj9d94n62v3m34t5ie8o54kvfb7%26))  ma il login non funziona  :-[  Sto ancora lavorando per ottenere che al lavoro ...  :-[

Naturalmente, un modo molto pi? facile per voi ? quello di utilizzare Google Chrome browser per Internet e che tradurre tutto in modo automatico. Se non hai provato ancora arrivare Google Chrome https://www.google.com/intl/it/chrome/browser/?hl=it&brand=CHNG&utm_source=it-hpp&utm_medium=hpp&utm_campaign=it (https://www.google.com/intl/it/chrome/browser/?hl=it&brand=CHNG&utm_source=it-hpp&utm_medium=hpp&utm_campaign=it).

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The website has a built-in translate function (powered by SLA (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=it&u=http://www.alsintl.com/&usg=ALkJrhgXCrV_JOW46EdbuIvMyah3mgd_Ew) and Google (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=it&u=http://www.google.co.uk/&usg=ALkJrhinh_NSS9OOc1AS9P9lCOI8q0UMbQ)). There's a panel on the homepage with a drop-down menu that allows you to select the language you want. Looks like this
(http://x.co/rvdb)

or in Italian

(http://x.co/rvdn)

Here's a link to the website translated in Italian http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/&sl=en&tl=it&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/&sl=en&tl=it&hl=en&ie=UTF-8)

and here's a link to the page Kevin sent you

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=it&u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm&usg=ALkJrhi7AZBv6fWXhTxJmkaYR9PR9sR1_g (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=it&u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm&usg=ALkJrhi7AZBv6fWXhTxJmkaYR9PR9sR1_g).

When you use the built-in translation function for the website, the forum postings will also be translated (here's the forum in Italian http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=it&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.131mirafiori.com%2Fsmf%2Findex.php%3FPHPSESSID%3Dj9d94n62v3m34t5ie8o54kvfb7%26 (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=it&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.131mirafiori.com%2Fsmf%2Findex.php%3FPHPSESSID%3Dj9d94n62v3m34t5ie8o54kvfb7%26)) but the login will not work  :-[ I'm still working on getting that to work...  :(

Of course a much easier way for you is to use Google Chrome browser for the Internet and that will translate everything for you automatically. If you haven't tried it yet get Google Chrome at https://www.google.com/intl/it/chrome/browser/?hl=it&brand=CHNG&utm_source=it-hpp&utm_medium=hpp&utm_campaign=it (https://www.google.com/intl/it/chrome/browser/?hl=it&brand=CHNG&utm_source=it-hpp&utm_medium=hpp&utm_campaign=it).

Just a suggestion T....

Unless I've missed it on the forum page, would it be possible to have the translation option on the actual forum page itself...which is the page most regular visitors go directly to I suspect.

This is the way it works for Michele's site (EFFE131) in Italy... :)

It's possible but not as simple or as useful as you might expect. As I mentioned, the login (or even registration) does not work when in translated mode as the database engine gets translated input or no input at all. Plus not everything is displayed properly while in translation mode so things such as CAPTCHA panels during registration do not display at all. On top of which Google Chrome already translates everything on the Internet so there's not much point in trying to outdo Google!  ;D Many have tried and failed!!!!  :-\ ;D ;D ;D

So it's back to school then and learn some English  :D :D

That, or I can do it all in Greek if you prefer..... ;D ;D

Μην τολμήσεις!!  :o

 ;D ;D ;D

 ;)

This reminds me of my mother's house which has a picture of a smiling housewife in her kitchen.... with the caption

" I'm smiling because I have no idea what's going on!"  ;D

After all this time here on the forum i still don't know what's going on... :D :D :D :D :D

Mike,

here are only maniacs, nothing else
thus also all normally!

Enzo  ;D

Another 2 rooms are booked ..... ;D

Can't wait and really looking forward!

Regards,
Ren

How many does usaly come to thise events? I was thinking about going but i have 1800km one way  ;D

Hello and welcome lorf!

Well, if YOU come we're for sure one more ;)

Seriously: we counted between 10 and 20 131s on the past events and a variable number of "guest cars". That's a lower number of cars than you can expect from a A112-world-meeting with up to 50 cars, but I doubt those have more fun us ;D
However 3ma's are the biggest gatherings of 131s during the last decade I know of and I don't want to miss any of them, regardless how many cars there had been.

If this doesn't convice you, you might have a look for a cheap flight,  enjoy 3ma13 as a passenger / co-driver and bring your car in 2014...

Regards,
Ren

My trip is 2050 km one way Lorf so you won't be alone with a big petrol bill!  :)

Cool chart Rene...!  ;D

At the risk of repeating what's already been said above, a number of people travel long distances to attend the meetings and they have done so for a number of times. So while 1800Kms is a great distance it's not going to be a record for a 3ma attendance  ;D. Ren?'s cool chart above shows our record for car attendance (Fiat 131s that is as we've had people attend in other cars) is 20 cars in Germany in 2010 (but Ren? owned 5 of them I think  ;D ;D). People numbers are between 25 and 40-ish. You probably won't be surprised to know that the 3 of us who have answered you so far are from a group of just 4 people who have so far attended all six 3ma meetings and I certainly won't miss any future ones if I can help it.  

I'm the fourth person  ;D

Lorf, 3MA is a must for all 131 enthusiasts.  8) When will you ever be able to see so many of our favourite cars driving along together or filling a car park or "taking over" a small village  ;D

Whilst we have plans for a couple more yet there is nothing certain about anything and we have no idea how long this will all last (hopefully a long time but we really can't tell) so I'd say get along as soon as you can.  ;D I'm sure you'll make some new life long friends - I know I have. 8)

I've always questioned  :-\  whilst admiring and having respect for those undertaking the distances covered in 3MA's. However, i'm not convinced I would want to be travelling those distances in a 131.

We (the family) are looking to go to the Cote D'Azur this year by car. The wife isn't too keen on 1,600km (each way) in the Alfa  ;D ;D

Maybe I should suggest a 131 :o :o

Driving last year to Germany/Holland was the best experience ever. I would definitely do it again and in any 131. Our return trip covered about 700 miles in a 2 litre twin carb'd motor pulling at 4500/5000 rpm constant in 5th....2 litres are great high speed long distance cruisers. The only problem is the wallet gets very light quickly! ;D ;D

Bobby

Your ear drums must also of taken a beating  :D.

However 700 miles return is manageable. Kev's proposed 1,200 miles (one way).

That is going some. :o :o :o

It's not really (says he who only has to do 800 miles one way) because 700 miles were done in a day while the 1200 miles will be done over 3 days I believe.  As to the ear drum beating, I'm sure it wasn't as bad as in my car because Bobby wasn't playing the Eurovision Song Contest songs  ;D ;D

I remember in 1991 travelling down south in my Sport (about 220 miles each way) and wishing I had my previous Cavalier Mk2 GLS.

However, back then my Sport was my only car. Any 131 purchase now would be for different reasons and I am sure noise and refinement (or the lack of it) would not concern me. It is not what 131 Sports are about.

Rob,

I'm sure you are a very nice chap - so please excuse me for being frank. Reading your posts I would strongly recommend you keep fond memories of having once owned a 131 and stick to a) owning modern cars and/or b) getting yourself a 1:18 scale model of a 131 Sport - this will not make any noise, ist not uncomfortable, and you can carry it around in your up-to-date car (I even wonder if the 159 is the right car for you if you cannot make a 1600 km trip without complaints) to destinations not close to home.

You are very much welcome at 3MA2013, in your Alfa (it might not be the only Alfa, since my 1974 GTV might also be in the game, piloted by one of my closest friends), or if you prefer effortless travel: there's a quite prominent airport close to Munich which is connected to England as well, so you could fly in, pick up a comfortable rental car (definitely much more comfortable than the Cavalier you were so fond of 22 years ago) and cover the remaining 60 miles to Miesbach without any hassle.

Already back in 91 you preferred a Cavalier to a Sport for short distances - so what now, 22 years later? A Sport will not make you happy. Face it - it's fond memories, it's not the future. Come to Miesbach, indulge in seeing/hearing/feeling the 131 spirit, take a ride in various models - you are certainly welcome as a passenger in my car - but don't try to buy a 131 anymore. It won't make you happy - and even less your family.

Rob, no offence meant - English is not my native tongue, so this might sound harsher than it is intended.

Just to add my two-pence worth here too if I may.. :)

Not only am I planning to drive to 3MA13 in my Abarth in May but I'm also now planning to take it on my family holiday (that means with wife and both daughters) to Sorrento, southern Italy in late July  :o

(I couldn't go to Italy and leave it behind) 8)

Yes noise and refinement are likely to be an issue, but as you say Rob, that is not the point of owning a 131. Trans-continental journeys in a 37 year old car are not everyone's cup of tea, but there is simply nothing like driving your favourite machine through the mountains and along by the lakes and sea on a hot sunny day. It's what they're for! ;D ;D

Robert

No offence taken. Like I have said in previous posts I?ve always admired and respected those of you undertaking thousands of km distances in your 131?s. Not quite in the way I admire Motorcycle Racers (especially those on the Isle of Man TT), but respect all the same.

It is just at this point in my life with a ?youngish? family and having just returned to the UK after 4 years abroad, I don?t have the time or inclination to cross continents by 131. I?m sure in years to come when I have less demands on my time, I would love to drive 131?s over such distances. I may come to 3MA this year and it would be flying to the nearest airport and hooking up with you all.

I may not be as enthusiastic or committed as some on this site as regards 131?s. If I was then I?d make a compromise somewhere in my life and immediately purchase a 131 and be travelling in it this May to Germany. However, I have been very enthusiastic about 131?s since I was a toddler (I?ve recently turned 40) and would like to think I am fairly knowledgeable on the subject having demonstrated this through contributions on this site for approaching 3 years. Moreover having met Simon, I am sure he can endorse my 131 enthusiast credentials.

Simon

As I have said in my previous post, I am a 131 enthusiast but nothing like you.

Sorrento in July with the family in a 131. This shows serious 131 commitment that I would suggest has not been bettered by any other 131 enthusiast on this site. Especially considering how hot it is down there. We flew into Rome last year and hired a Fiat Bravo and stayed for 2 weeks near Florence. I found this hot and after a few years in the Middle East would be more accustomed to such temperatures.

Moreover, with such a trip planned in the 131, you have bypassed your Two 6 Cylinder 5 Series, that would be perfect for such a trip.

As much as I like my Alfa and in the context of what I paid for it with the miles that I am currently doing (another 435 mile drive after work this coming Thursday night) I have been spotted on the BMW Used Car Website looking at year old 520D?s. Note the sensible (maybe even boring to some) 4 cylinder models.

If I was going for a 6 cylinder, I would have to abandon BMW and go for one of the big Cats (the mighty British XF), with either the 240BHP or 275BHP Diesel Engine.

Rob,

I am happy to endorse your 131 credentials Sir! There is absolutely no doubt you are a 131 fan! 8)

Your 6 cylinder big cats wouldn't stand a chance matey. ;) My 6 cylinder diesel BMW has 286bhp ;) 8) ;D and that's just one of the reasons why I love it so much.

I hear what you say about the heat in Sorrento - Kev131 said the same - oh, but I want my 131 Abarth when I'm in Italy, but with all the comforts of my 535d M Sport! 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D

Si

I haven't got a Big Cat  :-\ :-\ yet ;D

And probably won't for a while  :'( :'(

I can see the 535D Sport making the trip to Sorrento. Now that would be something.

A few years ago in the Dordogne (2007) we travelled there in a 320iSE, the family opposite me in the caravan park had an Irish Plated Dark Metalic Blue 535D Sport. How I lusted after that one  :) ;D

XF Jags had not been launched at this time  :D :D ;D ;)

Are you going in the sport Kevin?

Plan is to take the Super Enda - At my age, comfort is king on a journey like this.   ;)

I know I'll miss the Sport on the challenging Alpine roads that Robert has lined up for us.

Maybe I'll leave Heidi (blue Super) in the hotel that day and ride shotgun with Simon on the way up and Theo on the way down (Hugo has better brakes)!!  ;D

Power steering is great on the S3.

Looks like my son Aston is coming with me this time ,just got to get his pastport , only a matter of time before he sells his Clio for a 131

First ERT (Easter Reconnaissance Trip) done today to finalize the tours; here's some wintery impressions from "King's Day" that will take us to Linderhof Palace, across the Austrian Border, near Neuschwanstein Castle and to the Wieskirche before returning to Miesbach (270 km round trip):

And Vasco vs. the swans at Swan Lake, near Neuschwanstein Castle  ;)

Very nice pics, again  :)

Only 36 days...  :D

2nd ERT, done today, again some impressions from "Sylvenstein Day" which will take us to the Sylvenstein Reservoir and Dam, the Isar valley, Lake Walchensee and the Walchensee Power Plant and back to Miesbach (180 km round trip):

And, on the lighter side, here's a picture of the legendary Wolpertinger (see here for details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolpertinger) I managed to take today:

3rd ERT, done today, see some impressions from "Lake Day" which will be the first day of 3MA2013, intended as a "warming up" event  ;) the itinerary will be: Lake Starnberg, with a coffee break at one of my all-time favorite spots on the lake; climbing up the Hoher Peissenberg that features (on a clear day) a marvelous panorama of the Alps; a visit to Andechs Abbey on the "holy mountain" above Lake Ammersee  where the monks have been brewing well renowned (and strong!) beer for more than 900 years - we will have a late lunch there (we Bavarians call this a "brotzeit"); and back to Miesbach (240 km round trip). Here's some pics taken on a cold, windy April day:

Again, on the lighter side, here's a machine that stands on top of the Hoher Peissenberg: The fabulous "Tourist Sound". Upon inserting 1 Euro, you will be able to listen to "Interesting Info on the Hoher Peissenberg, its pilgrimage church and the weather station".

This 3MA seems to have a very civilised and cultural flavour Robert. I think you must be optimising the experience for the predominant 131 version namely Series 3 Supermirafioris whose drivers will probably be embarrassed by too many Alpine hairpin bends!  :)

Seems to me you've got this just right Robert  ;D Thanks for all the hard work and see you soon  ;) :D

FRT (Final Reconnaissance Trip) finished today, and behold! finally the sun came out (although only at an altitude of 1400 meters) - see how awe-inspiring the Alps can be! This tour takes us up to an elevation of 1570 meters; round trip from Miesbach is 290 km, but with an Autobahn interlude of 80 km at the end of the trip  ;).

All 3MA2013 participants may want to check the brakes of their cars, since there are some steep and long descents - even the Mercedes, with 4 disc brakes, showed brake fading down the Ro?feld  8) - also it might be a good idea to bring some spare brake pads?

thats why i did mine, nursed bad brake for 2 ,3ma,s

Amazing pictures!

Good luck 127 brakes on a 131! Get that fluid changed too!

This year it will be impossible for me, but, I have a question, Spain France, Switzerland Italy and so on, do they have GPL fuel stations? because I did 2 trips with a friend of mine on a 130 coupe... it where about 5000km's per trip but fuel costs are nowadays impossible to keep... :s

I have received the go-ahead for 3ma13 ! tomorrow i book the ferry and then i book the hotel room ! it's ok even if is it late ? 

This is good news! Hotel booking should be OK, if not contact me please ASAP!

Best regards,
Robert

Hey Jape, great news  :)

it`s been a time since 3MA11  ;)

Great news Jape  :D
See you in a few days  ;)

Now I'm worried - Should I have got the go-ahead to go too...?  :o ;D

Since a few days we made the final decision we don't attend 3MA13. I couldn't leave home earlier as wednesday and need to go home on saturday. That leaves me 2 days of attending and driving a hell of a lot. Beside that I have to leave Ela for 4 nights and with our little babygirl still asking minimal twice every night that's simply too much. Believe me it was a difficult decision, the car is fully ready as was my mum,(she really likes the driving events), but I think it is good this way. Of course I wanna wish you all a very pleasant stay and hope to see loads of pictures and nice stories.

So sorry you won't be with us  >:(, Is this the first one  you'll miss

Really sorry that you can't attend Albert,  3ma won't be the same without you.

hope the sun  will be out ...

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I have received the go-ahead for 3ma13 ! tomorrow i book the ferry and then i book the hotel room ! it's ok even if is it late ?

Now I'm worried - Should I have got the go-ahead to go too...? 

Tanja she not happy that i tell if i go to the 3ma13, becouse she leave alone to home with 2 little boy...
only one prolblem that little boy he don't have name and anything document so we could not all family this meeting !

thursday i book ferry which leaves the monday even and arrive to Travemund tuestday even and then we drive all night to Miesbach
and yesterday even we book to hotel room via internet !
i coming with my friend Eero becouse he speak english very good

Gisela, Werner, Norbert and Heini will start on Monday morning at 10.00  :)

We are going for a "One-Stop-Stragie" and our stopover will be in Fulda. We found a nice hotel with beer garden  ;D 8)
On Tuesday after breakfest restart to Miesbach  :)...

Looking forward to see you all again  :)

To all attending, you must be very very excited.....i am too and not even going >:(

Wish you all a safe and well trip and have fun in the best cars in the world ;)

Don't forget to post up lots of photo's.

Heini i am on the look out for this surprise ;)

Hey Bobby,

it is nothing spectacular.

But I love it for its condition her intrinsic values  8)

Something for the 131 enthusiasts...