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« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2010, 11:10:26 PM »

    GARTRAC FABRICATIONS    01428 682263 ask for Dave D    (there's two Dave's)

They made Toad's axle it takes 180-190ish through 10" slick standing starts  This way you keep the Fiat bolt spacing and the 131 drive shaft's go straight into the Ford Diff.

131 axle tubes
Mk 1 or 2 escort axle
Remake propshaft

They will weld it together properly, and refit the link brackets this gives you a quick change diff and Ford LSD's to fit if you really want to have fun.

    The links are just flopped over in the picture

                 Roger.............
 


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« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2010, 11:14:32 PM »

Roger,

Did you really build an Escort axle under your Fiat? You surely must know that the Escort and the 131 were each others biggest components in the late 70's, early 80's?  Wink Wink
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« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2010, 11:20:52 PM »



   What ever it takes to get the job done,    although an Atlas would be better, I wanted the wheels to fit as it was constructed when Toad was my road car.
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« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2010, 11:25:45 PM »

You're right. I was just having fun. Love your car. It's fast and furious. Hm, sounds like the title of a ba-a-ad movie. Wink
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« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2010, 11:40:26 PM »

You know it just crossed my mind, we should have a bit where everyones mods could be reposted in one section, sort of take a bit from here and there, and bring all the different 131 mods together. Different axles, different brake mods, that sort of things.

  And thanks again

            Roger.................. Kiss
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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2010, 08:44:22 AM »

and what about a volvo 200 or 700 series diff??? there are plenty of aftermarket products for them and can be abused on standard shafts and ratios are widely available as from factory standard. i think station wagon volvos had LSD and the turbo engined volvos too.

rear brakes are disks and in the hub part there are 2 tiny shoes that are the hand brake

the problem is ...volvo diffs are wide, calipers at the back have seperate hydraulic pipes (one for each caliper) 5 stud and is fitting a complete volvo diff or using only the calipers & disks may be a bit of hassel.


i had a 244 and brakes are awsome!!!

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« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2010, 12:42:22 AM »

For all of you wanting to fit custom brakes to the rear of any car:

Take original cable and one to match the new brakes.
Run cables to establish lengths and fixings.
Contact Speedy Cables http://www.speedycables.com/

These guys will make any brake cable you want.

They are good on advice also!
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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2010, 11:20:58 PM »

So again to confirm i have 2 choices to get a decent diff/axle on the 131 !
Get a decent Mk 2 English axle modify it to suit the 131 set up fit disc brakes etc.
Or get my hands on a 132 axle and modify that.
What is the easy option here ?
I wont be doing it for a while so i want the easy option.
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« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2010, 11:28:56 PM »

I have a 132 1800 axle currently for sale on ebay but it does still have drum brakes.
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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2010, 11:36:26 PM »

where did you manage to find 132 1800 with drums??? first time i heard of that
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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2010, 11:37:12 PM »

I've put a 132 disc rearend in my 131. The top control arm mounts have to be changed and a mounting point for the 131 pitman arm has to be fabricated on the 132 axle housing. The disc brake rearend made a huge difference and the diff is a better ratio than the standard 131. The 132 setup is about 20mm narrower than the 131 axle, my tyres no longer rub the guards when cornering.
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« Reply #26 on: December 12, 2010, 02:43:39 PM »

Mirafioriman what age group is your 132 axle from did it come from a 1972 - 77 1800cc model ?
Just so i can look into what disc's will and wont fit on it.
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« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2010, 05:51:42 PM »

It came from an 1800 GLS model. As to the year? I broke it a while ago and can't remember I would guess about 1977. I think the 1800ES was the only later 132 to come with disc brakes and they were phased out earlier on other models.
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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2010, 06:42:53 PM »

all 1800 132s i ever saw had rear discs. 1800gls was produced in yugoslavia so plenty of those here. all with discs in the rear.
i had 1975. 132 1800special with discs too
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« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2010, 06:52:00 PM »

Unless someone had fitted a different axle to this car, that is always possible. The car came to me without it's engine but it was definitely an 1800cc twin cam engine that was originally fitted to the car.

I need to take photos of the axle, perhaps that will shed some light on the issue.
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