131mirafiori forum

I have ordered centre propshaft mount, bearing and nut for 131 from a Lada spares place of the net and for all three parts including post to Uk its $49.80 US dollars thats ?29.84p, not sure where they are based ? but they want paying in dollars, keep you informed how it goes..........

finally! someone besides me who has the gut to put lada parts on 131! report of progress

Its Russia which is what I thought but they sound legit and dont think I will have to pay customs as parts are under ?18 ?  go to www.ladaparts.ru    I suspect the centre mounts advertised on ebay for ?39.95p probably originate from here anyway ?

There is/was a Lada specialist up here near me. I wonder if he stocks these parts?

I hope not ive just ordered them from Russia :D

Can't find him on the net. I think Eugene will know.

Guys ,

Let's keep this Lada thread going , maybe we will build a database of sorts which Lada parts can be used as replacements for our Fiats.

Miro

Problem is the Lada was a patent built Fiat 124 and Lada used there own engine and box so you are very limited for 131 but a lot better off if you own a 124 I would guess

I actually have  124 spider , and one o my front suspension arms is from a Lada . It only required welding spring seats differently.

Miro

actually, engine and gearbox are a compilation of several fiat engines and gearboxes. for instance, bellhousing for TC engine from fiat 125 will bolt straight on to a lada gearbox, which is very simmilar (same?) as fiat polish 125 gearbox, and than straight onto a fiat's donut. also, U joints are the same.


it's a diference between lower front suspension arm for fiat 124 sedan and spider. if you took the suspension arm from 124 sedan, you'd have the same problem.

rear suspension of lada is 90% same as on 131. suspension arms and bushings from lada can be used on 131.
rear coil springs for lada are the same lenght and diameter as for 131, but are available in diferent load capacities, therefore giving a choice of three diferent stiffnes/height combo's. one could also take a hard spring for lada and shorten it by a coil or two and get a hard stiff 131 rear end. bog standard rear spring for lada is the same load capacity as for 131.

engine mounts on lada and 131 are the same. gearbox mount for lada can be fitted to a 131/132 gearbox with 5 minutes modifying job.

oil filters are the same.

rubber seal surrounding the doors and the boot (sorry guys, don't know the name of the part) is the same on 131 and on lada.

rear window winders on 4dr 131 are the same as on lada.

want me to go on?

Sure, go on.

The parts I ordered as of list above are  A) central prop mount  2101-2202080  $12 (?7.17p)  B) bearing for same 28042320  $8.80 (?5.25) and C) nut  2101-2202105  $2 (?1.19p)  so a Total of  ?13.61p  for parts and you can use paypal, the rest is post, they say two weeks for delivery but I think thats a bit on the optimistic side but we will see ?

Here are the details Dave.
Alan Bird is his name and he is in Penrith.
E-mail address is   alan@lada.co.uk   Tel 01768779794.
He has recently started a e-bay shop of his own
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/LADA-UK-LTD .
Alan is like Yagmur,honest,prompt and efficient.He is also a farmer,and sometimes it can be difficult to get him on the phone,but keep trying and you will get him.Like Yagmur,i have yet to hear anyone say anything bad about Alan.Eugene

Thanks for your nice words Eugene,
But why you are talking about Lada parts and modifiying them to fit 131s.
I have almost every part and cheap prices.No need modifying,high quality parts.etc...
Djape,you are talking about making the engine mounts,window rubbers,etc,I have these parts at the stock.

These Lada parts same as 131

Djape!

Please go on !!

This is most interesting !!!

Miro

sorry pal, i really don't mean to spoil your business.
i know that you have 90% of parts available new and in same quality as fiat ricambi originali, but postage costs are really high when you need some small bits and pieces. also, when a part fails, it;'s often impossible to wait for 10-15 days for parts to arrive. you'll always have a lot of customers here, since i'm not aware of any other supplier that can provide wings, doors, chais legs, bonnets etc...

engine mounts don't need to be modified, only gearbox mount.


@david - what part is that, i don't recognise the drawing?

front wheel bearings should be the same on lada and 131, i'll have the info in a day or two since i have to change wheel bearings on my lada.

brake master cilinder is the same for lada and 131
complete brake servo from lada can be fitted with 5 minutes modification. servo from 132 is the same as for 131.

Hi Djape,
I have never been thought that you spoil my business,it is impossible for you to do it as my country is full of high quality and cheap Fiat parts,also be sure that this is not my main business.This is my hobby business because of my love in 131s.All I want is to help 131 fans.Otherwise I should ask twice prices as they are rare items now.Try to find some rare parts ,can you supply???
And becarefull of your words,think twice before writing something,you are writing wrong infos.
Where do you live???Do you know anything about European shipping costs.!!!!
My postage costs are very very cheap and takes max.7 days to UK.And also ıf somebody needs some parts urgently I can send with "TNT" in 24 hours (next day)adress delivery.
I only mentioned in my last message that as I have original 131 parts,why need to get Lada parts,without quality.
cheers

hey, slow down!
what wrong info's? i write only about the parts i've used myself.

i never said your prices are too high or YOUR shipping costs are high. i've sent a 1,5 kilo package over half a europe today and the postage was 25euro for an item worth around 15e!!! shipping is expensive anywhere. imagine sending a 10e part and paying 25e for shipping? does it make sense if you can get the par locally? even if it's a lada part?

rare parts? let me see... how 'bout whole sides for 2dr mirafiori? doors for 2dr 131? rhd steering racks? anyone interested?

you do have many rare and usefull parts and i only wish there were more parts dealers like you around.

you be carefull of your words.
why do you have the need to comment on this "what fits from what" story? if you have some usefull info please supply it here.

i don't sell parts and i don't make my living on cars at all. this is a fanclub and one of the points of having a fanclub is to provide help and usefull info for members. all in all to make life with our 131's easyer



so, on with the lada parts story...

as i said, engine and gearbox mounts
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4219/a010r.jpg) (http://img263.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a010r.jpg)

rear crankshaft oring is the same as for TC engine and for 2.5l diesel. what about OHV?
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/9830/a111vf.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a111vf.jpg)


oil pump and oil pump drive gear. same as on TC 1800engine, diferent than 2.000. what about 1600?
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8262/a500c.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a500c.jpg)
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/4970/a520q.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a520q.jpg)

oil cap - the same
dipstick seal - the same
oil filter - the same
oil pressure warning light switch - the same, currently on my engine one from 2,5l alfa 156!
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6320/a510.jpg) (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a510.jpg)

radiator - old type for lada (copper core) 5minute job to fit it to 131
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4899/a600.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a600.jpg)

radiator - new type, alu-plastic, post 1998. 10 min job. better cooling. usual price in eastern europe is around 50e.
rubber bits that go below radiator - the same
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2149/a601.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a601.jpg)


thermostat - requires some fiddling aroud the water hoses. my 131 is currently running on lada thermostat
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/2898/a610x.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a610x.jpg)


steering rack. nothig in common with 131, yet, the old type, one for lada 2101, 2102, 2103, 2106 is the same as on fiat 124
(http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/6609/d110.jpg) (http://img30.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d110.jpg)


steering bits and pieces - nothing in common with 131. short tie rod ends are the same as for 124, 125, 132 and argenta. everything else is same as for 124
(http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/4867/d120.jpg) (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d120.jpg)


lower ball joints same for 124, 132, argenta. everything else same as for 124 sedan/familiare. 124 coupe and spider are somewhat diferent
(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/8977/d210.jpg) (http://img32.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d210.jpg)


ruber bushings for anty roll bar are the same for pretty much any fiat/zastava/lada. on my lada and 131 are from autobianchi a112
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/9180/d220.jpg) (http://img697.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d220.jpg)

rear suspension is very simmilar as on 131. almost everything can be used on 131
(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/1363/d300.jpg) (http://img109.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d300.jpg)

enoug for tonight, before my girlfriend kills me  ;D

djape,  RE your question this part is the brake rear load valve which is the same as 131

Re the parts drawing of Lada block and the rear end cap gasket 2101-100515 this looks exactly the same as fiat twin cam gasket and was unavailable from fiat years ago when I asked...

didn't recognize the load valve. i usually just bypass it if it fails...
rear end cap gasket and cap might be the same, i never bothered to compare the two, but i did use the rear crankshaft seal on my 132 1800 and on my 132 2500diesel


as i said, rer end is very simmilar to 131. i can't confirm the control arms lenghts as yet.
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3521/d310.jpg) (http://img41.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d310.jpg)

Re this load valve, I once had one of these that unbeknown to me had seized, anyway I was braking hard from 120mph in a 131 sport because of something in front of me and the rear end locked which isnt good at this speed, had massive side slaps from side to side, can remember thinking this is hospital if im lucky or dead if im not, anyway on the last side slap to the right it nudged into a centre reservation with heavy hedging and small trees and managed to level the car out and can remember the speedo was still on 70mph. So I always check these load valves on a regular basis now and make sure they are adjusted correctly as I dont want a reoccurance of that. David

well, on all my cars i run extra wide soft compound tyres, 205 minimum for the rear end, so that kind of problems is very rare. also, on 132 1800 rear discs are standard, and on 2500diesel i fitted rear discs so brake balance is diferent anyway. on lada i have lowered the car, fitted 7*13 rims and 205 tyres, so again, no problems there even withouth brake load valve. rear discs are in the making for lada and for 131.


front spindle and bearing:
spindle - nothing to do with 131. can be fitted to 124, 125, 132
front wheel bearing kit - as i said, should be the same as 131. will know in a day or two.
(http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/8797/d400.jpg) (http://img190.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d400.jpg)

the nut for the bearing probably same and on the earlier pic sump plug probably same 12mm allen key as 131 and all fiats then

yup. i forgot that. sump plug is the same, gearbox oil plug and differential oil plug also.
for usa members, ruber bushings for anty roll bar from Yugo also fit 131

brake servo can be easyly modified to fit 131. red marked part needs to be cut off 131 servo and welded instead of original lada coupling. i've done that already but the other way around. i've fitted a fiat 132 servo on my lada.
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7225/g100t.jpg) (http://img690.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g100t.jpg)
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/8035/image004sn.jpg) (http://img25.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image004sn.jpg)


as i've said, master brake cylinder can be bolted on 131 servo unit. red mark is where rear brake line attaches to lada master and yellow is where 131 rear brake line is attached. a bit of gymnastics with brake lines is needed. thread on the nut at the end of brake lines is the same as on all old fiats. brake master cyl. from 124, 125, 128, 132, argenta is also usable with more or less fiddling with the pipes.
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/9317/g110.jpg) (http://img22.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g110.jpg)

brake lines, hoses and couplings from lada are 90% same as on 131. one wouldn't make a mistake buying a whole brake line set for lada. it can be fitted to 131 with very little mods.
(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/6070/g120.jpg) (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g120.jpg)

yes, brake pipe unions the same as 131 up to late 82 as you say, coarse thread BN8 type

Hi Djape1977 i wouldnt recommend welding that piece on, remember ayrton sennas steering? better get it threaded & bolt it on, thats what i would do anyway, Sid.

i already welded it 4-5 months ago and it's working fine. i've had couple of close calls cince then, where i had to brake VERY hard, and the weld held up.
of course, you shouldn't just tack it, it requires a serious weld. when done properly, welded parts are stronger than mterial itself. if you got it treaded and bolted on, you would have to reduce thicknes of material, therefore reducing its strength.
and don't forget the cooling, water will do fine. if you don't cool it while welding, the heat will transfer to the inside of servo and damage all the plastic and rubber pieces inside

Re the earlier Lada, say 1980 to whenever the exterior door handles where same design as mk1 & mk2 131 so the lock barrels must be the same only the ones on Lada site are later seperate design

David how do you remove the lock barrel from a 131 door handle? do you know how?

haven't tried that, but it could be the case since keys are the same as on old fiats

when you have the door handle off the car the back cap has a pin, this can be corroded with age now but drift this out using the stem from a suitable sized rivet, using a socket underneath to push the pin into and the cap will come off revealing the centralising spring, remove this and as I recall the barrel will push out through the front

Thanks Davis i was baffled how to do this & have new handles off a super & want to put the locks into a racing handle.

picture of parts Nick...

linkage for brake balance valve - should be the same as on 131
(http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/7512/g130.jpg) (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g130.jpg)


brake master cylinder - as i said before, same as for fiats, including the bits inside. rebuild sets still available for lada
(http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/2568/g140.jpg) (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g140.jpg)

rear brake cyl. - still haven't changed those on my 131 so i don't know if theyre the same
(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4337/g150.jpg) (http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g150.jpg)

From memory the 131 has a much simpler arrangement for the rear brake load valve with a rod that goes through a bracket on the trailing arm mounting.

i might be wrong. perhaps then its as on 125 or 132? beats me, i know i saw that arangement somewhere recently

Also note that the door handles(outside) on my Nivas are the same on the series one 131.I am pretty sure that the handles on the sport are the same :-\,but i am open to be corrected  ::).Eugene

As stated fitment for load valve is different being a straight bar with a loop in it but valve its self is the same as I was told, just fit 131 bar

excellent David, thanks again.

djape, this is 131 cyl so looks the same and no reason why it wouldnt be I suppose

Is there a difference between a mk 1 and mk 2 door lock that is the bar that connects the locking button on the inside of the door is it shorter on a mk 1?

Do you mean the rod between the back of the lock and the catch on the door ? if so the mk2 had a totally plastic one and as I can remember the mk 1 was a metal rod threaded at either end to which plastic caps screwed on which had the same size hole to clip on and I have seen mk2s with mk1 type so they must interfit and the doors are same

No David i mean the part that the inside lock button screws onto its a metal bar

oh right, that is different as mk2, well CL up anyway had the door cappings at the top and mk1 just had a plastic screw on button didnt it ?

Thats right dave they both screwed on but im wondering is the bar shorter on mk 1 cause if you try to fit this bar to mk 2 the button wont pull up or is the lock mechansim different :)

It must be shorter on mk1 as mk2 CL type has further distance to travel

Do you need mk2 type as have a few hanging around ?

handbrake mechanism is a bit of an unknovn for me. brake drums on lada are bigger than on 131
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/751/g170.jpg) (http://img97.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g170.jpg)

brake servo again  ::)
(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/6900/g180.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g180.jpg)


front brakes are two piston and completely diferent than on any fiat i know of. distance plate between brake disc and wheel is the same as on 131, screw holding it in place also
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/6470/g200.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g200.jpg)

djape, handbrake cable set up different to 131 but take it its the same as 124 ?

dunno. i never had a 124. it's different than on 132 for sure. i think it's possible that russians changed that too. they fiddled around the brakes a lot, making hem quite a bit stronger than 131/132. two piston front brakes, big aluminum drums in the back...

air bleed screw is the same as on fiats, everything else is different
(http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4941/g210.jpg) (http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=g210.jpg)

I wonder is Lada brakes fit a 131 then?

haven't tryed yet. mounting plate for front callipers looks as if it could fit. discs are deeper than on 131. two piston calipers make a bit of problem with the rims, you'd have to add one more 5mm distance plate to make room between brake piston and rim. as for the rear brakes, you'd probably have to swap whole halfshaft with brakeplate and hub. im MHO, i'd much rather swap rear brakes of 131 for rear brakes from 132 1800 or 125. since that's what i'm planing to do with my 131, i'll report of progress.


edit: lada's brakes are completely useless when driven on standard factory lada. they lock up much too soon because of narrow tyres and are prone to overheating due to hard brake pads compound. when wider tyres are fitted (205/60/13 in my case) and soft compound pads are used (lucas/trw on my lada) everything comes to it's place. combined with what some call "overpowered" servo unit from 132, they make a car stop on a dime.

wiper motors and mechanizm... does it seem familliar or not?
(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6153/k340.jpg) (http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=k340.jpg)


seats. lada seats are rubbish but they're straight bolt on for 132. mechanical bits are the same. what about 131?
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/9743/m110.jpg) (http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m110.jpg)

djape, Not sure about wiper bits as they all look much the same in a diagram but this set up is for left hand drive so motor would probably be the same for LHD 131 ? but doubt linkage is same size?  Re seats brackets doesnt look the same as 131

gearbox and speedo. gearbox is very simmilar to calloti type fiat gearbox, meaning that parts  probably fit 124/125/early 132 gearbox. speedo drive is as on 132, probably as on 131 also, provided that there's adequate number of teeth on speedo drive gear. there's three different gears for lada gearboxes, depending on final drive ratio.
plastic and rubber bits that go inside gearstick and connect it to gearbox are the same as on 131 and 132 and are available as a set at a price of around 1,5e.
speedo cable is the same as on 131
(http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/4321/v210.jpg) (http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v210.jpg)
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4839/v220i.jpg) (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v220i.jpg)
(http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3689/v230.jpg) (http://img297.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v230.jpg)
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/9665/v250.jpg) (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v250.jpg)

this story started with a propshaft. well, here it is! a whole propshaft to fit 131
(http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/5346/v300p.jpg) (http://img697.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v300p.jpg)

(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3685/v310.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v310.jpg)

(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9605/v320.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v320.jpg)


rear axle and diff. as on fiats 124 and 125. what fits 131? dunno. probably lots of bits. whole axle is very simmilar and can be easyly modified to fit 131. it already has all the right mounting points, panhard rod included, except that shocks are positioned differently. limited slip diff is available for ladas at a price around 250e.
(http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9101/v400.jpg) (http://img94.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v400.jpg)

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8108/v410.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=v410.jpg)

several more parts from lada to suit fiats:
balljoints - 124 upper and lower, 125 and 132 lower
(http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/832/11w09741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg) (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11w09741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg)

radiator - same as 131 and 132
(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8080/1cr5ks741bde0a851f2f88a.jpg) (http://img269.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1cr5ks741bde0a851f2f88a.jpg)

rubber donut - same as on 131, 132...
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/4066/1crcpi741bde0a851f2f88a.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1crcpi741bde0a851f2f88a.jpg)
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1/a6e40741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg) (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a6e40741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg)


tie rod ends - 124.125.132
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7858/1csvzr.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1csvzr.jpg)
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4749/1dots9.jpg) (http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1dots9.jpg)

rear axle, upper one is from 132 1800 and lower one from lada. can easyly be made to fit 131 or 132
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3526/f9n90741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg) (http://img696.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f9n90741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg)

rear suspension arms and bushings - same as on 124/131/132. poliuretane silent blocks  - homemade
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1362/f51ps741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg) (http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f51ps741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg)
(http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/9721/f0tzr741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg) (http://img688.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f0tzr741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg)
(http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5404/f4jwi741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg) (http://img121.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f4jwi741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg)


propshaft U-joints - same a son fiats, according to this box, same as on fords
(http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/366/mav8r741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg) (http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mav8r741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg)


centre propshaftr mount - the same. this one happens to be made in germany. for lada.
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7236/a6gz9741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg) (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=a6gz9741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg)
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/4685/cmgcs741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg) (http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cmgcs741bde0a851f2f88a8.jpg)

Re: propshaft

Which Lads is this  for ?

Miro

any rear wheel drive lada. 2101, 2102, 2103, 2104, 2105, 2106, 2107 or standard, special, riva, nova, station wagon, 1200, 1300, 1500, 1600, all have the same driveshaft.

might be different lenght to 131/132 though, but i'm pretty certain that rear section is the same for all rear wheel driven fiats and lada, while the front section varies in lenght. you can combine any two sections by connecting them on central u joint, since all use same u joints. on my lada is the front section from 132 and rear from lada. i had to combine to get lenght i needed since i used 132 gearbox which is longer than ladas.

same propshaft is on FSO 125p and polonez. later versions of polonez, post 1988 i think, have a thinner driveshaft, same u joints, centre mount and donut though.

btw, i have several of those if you need it, only i'm afraid that shipping would be expensive since they're quite heavy. i believe that it should be available in poland new, if not than on scrapyards there must be some ladas left

Djape
 
Hold on to them for a while , If I cannot find them here I will ask you for one ...

Miro  

sure, i don't throw away usable parts. just measure the lenght on your car so i can make the combo you need

Seeing that so many LADA Parts will fit Fiat,people should have much more appreciation for LADA vehicles ::).From what djape1977 has shown us,i think that LADA&FIAT are brothers and not cousins ::) ::) ;D :D ;).Eugene

Sisters & brothers maby ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ::) ::)?

Lada differential has shorter length then FSO polonez or 125p(later models with "square diffs"). It is about 5cm shorter measured from the centre of differential to end of prop shaft flange. I have installed such lada differential in my FSO Polonez that i had few years ago and i remember that i had to install rear piece of Lada to fiat 132 front prop shaft piece. I am not sure right now as it was some time ago but i am almost sure i have put different length rear piece of propshaft.

probably is so. fortunately, diferent lenghts of propshaft sections are available from 124, 125, 125p, 131, 132, argenta, lada, polonez, so combinations to suit all purposes are possible.

and to prove that lada is no illegitimate offspring of italian automotive idustry, look what i'fe found today!
(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2742/image001zyn.jpg) (http://img39.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image001zyn.jpg)
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1127/image002jd.jpg) (http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=image002jd.jpg)

well no arguing with that (unless you just cast it?) lol1

this manifold is 30 yrs old, but i'll definaely make a cast of it in the near future

Well,thats the proof ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::).Thanks again djape ;D.Good detective work :D ;).Well done.Eugene

Well Eugene thats just a little bit of evidence i will have to see some more before i decide ;) :D ;D

Alquati normally stamp the car it is for in the manifold as having 2 carbs would be in the spirit of Communism as everyone else has only 1 carb but Lada are that relation you dont talk about, the relation that lives on their own and all the locals stay away from  ::) ::) ::) ::)

Well said red lad ;D ;D

Thats a bit like saying"That wedding ring that i bought for my wife thats on her finger is not belong to me" ::) ::) ::) ::) ::).Eugene

well boys the plot deepens ??? ???

somebody looking for this?
http://cgi.ebay.it/ALBERO-TRASMISSIONE-COMPLETO-SUPPORTI-ORIG-FIAT-131_W0QQitemZ160379643077QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRicambi_automobili?hash=item25575f24c5

I bought it and had to return it. Did not fit at all. Maybe this is for diesel ?

Miro

dunno. might be, it's hard to tell from the picture

Received today from Russia, centre rubber mount and bearing so thats 18 days from the day I paid for it which isnt bad for the distance, looks spot on and will be fitting it this week when I get time

29 year old one from 1980 131 sport and one from Russia on right, exactly the same.....

how in the world did you manage to take off the old one withouth destroying it???

In a press djape, some stainless bars (one either side) under yoke first and press spline from above and then when yoke removed bars under centre mount and press on spline again and mount and bearing come off. The old bearing is still good after 29 years but I wouldnt put it back