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« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2009, 08:19:32 PM »

oh right, that is different as mk2, well CL up anyway had the door cappings at the top and mk1 just had a plastic screw on button didnt it ?
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« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2009, 08:34:50 PM »

Thats right dave they both screwed on but im wondering is the bar shorter on mk 1 cause if you try to fit this bar to mk 2 the button wont pull up or is the lock mechansim different Smiley
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« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2009, 08:38:10 PM »

It must be shorter on mk1 as mk2 CL type has further distance to travel
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« Reply #48 on: November 14, 2009, 08:40:16 PM »

Do you need mk2 type as have a few hanging around ?
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« Reply #49 on: November 14, 2009, 08:42:37 PM »

handbrake mechanism is a bit of an unknovn for me. brake drums on lada are bigger than on 131


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front brakes are two piston and completely diferent than on any fiat i know of. distance plate between brake disc and wheel is the same as on 131, screw holding it in place also
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« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2009, 08:52:57 PM »

djape, handbrake cable set up different to 131 but take it its the same as 124 ?
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« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2009, 09:11:39 PM »

dunno. i never had a 124. it's different than on 132 for sure. i think it's possible that russians changed that too. they fiddled around the brakes a lot, making hem quite a bit stronger than 131/132. two piston front brakes, big aluminum drums in the back...

air bleed screw is the same as on fiats, everything else is different
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« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2009, 09:16:03 PM »

I wonder is Lada brakes fit a 131 then?
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« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2009, 09:25:38 PM »

haven't tryed yet. mounting plate for front callipers looks as if it could fit. discs are deeper than on 131. two piston calipers make a bit of problem with the rims, you'd have to add one more 5mm distance plate to make room between brake piston and rim. as for the rear brakes, you'd probably have to swap whole halfshaft with brakeplate and hub. im MHO, i'd much rather swap rear brakes of 131 for rear brakes from 132 1800 or 125. since that's what i'm planing to do with my 131, i'll report of progress.


edit: lada's brakes are completely useless when driven on standard factory lada. they lock up much too soon because of narrow tyres and are prone to overheating due to hard brake pads compound. when wider tyres are fitted (205/60/13 in my case) and soft compound pads are used (lucas/trw on my lada) everything comes to it's place. combined with what some call "overpowered" servo unit from 132, they make a car stop on a dime.
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« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2009, 11:15:10 PM »

wiper motors and mechanizm... does it seem familliar or not?



seats. lada seats are rubbish but they're straight bolt on for 132. mechanical bits are the same. what about 131?
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« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2009, 08:49:17 AM »

djape, Not sure about wiper bits as they all look much the same in a diagram but this set up is for left hand drive so motor would probably be the same for LHD 131 ? but doubt linkage is same size?  Re seats brackets doesnt look the same as 131
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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2009, 04:47:28 PM »

gearbox and speedo. gearbox is very simmilar to calloti type fiat gearbox, meaning that parts  probably fit 124/125/early 132 gearbox. speedo drive is as on 132, probably as on 131 also, provided that there's adequate number of teeth on speedo drive gear. there's three different gears for lada gearboxes, depending on final drive ratio.
plastic and rubber bits that go inside gearstick and connect it to gearbox are the same as on 131 and 132 and are available as a set at a price of around 1,5e.
speedo cable is the same as on 131



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« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2009, 12:18:02 AM »

this story started with a propshaft. well, here it is! a whole propshaft to fit 131







rear axle and diff. as on fiats 124 and 125. what fits 131? dunno. probably lots of bits. whole axle is very simmilar and can be easyly modified to fit 131. it already has all the right mounting points, panhard rod included, except that shocks are positioned differently. limited slip diff is available for ladas at a price around 250e.


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« Reply #58 on: November 17, 2009, 01:34:22 AM »

several more parts from lada to suit fiats:
balljoints - 124 upper and lower, 125 and 132 lower


radiator - same as 131 and 132


rubber donut - same as on 131, 132...




tie rod ends - 124.125.132



rear axle, upper one is from 132 1800 and lower one from lada. can easyly be made to fit 131 or 132


rear suspension arms and bushings - same as on 124/131/132. poliuretane silent blocks  - homemade





propshaft U-joints - same a son fiats, according to this box, same as on fords



centre propshaftr mount - the same. this one happens to be made in germany. for lada.




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« Reply #59 on: November 17, 2009, 01:56:28 AM »

Re: propshaft

Which Lads is this  for ?

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