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Title: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: jasonh131 on July 26, 2015, 10:09:13 PM
 http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/221836762576?ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11021.m43.l1120%2F7%3Feuid%3Da037d31161524b3f90595a126ee5e24e%26loc%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.co.uk%252Fws%252FeBayISAPI.dll%253FViewItem%2526item%253D221836762576%26srcrot%3De11021.m43.l1120%26rvr_id%3D0&_mwBanner=1  (http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/221836762576?ul_ref=http%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11021.m43.l1120%2F7%3Feuid%3Da037d31161524b3f90595a126ee5e24e%26loc%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.co.uk%252Fws%252FeBayISAPI.dll%253FViewItem%2526item%253D221836762576%26srcrot%3De11021.m43.l1120%26rvr_id%3D0&_mwBanner=1)



Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: jasonh131 on July 26, 2015, 10:11:10 PM
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/OTYwWDEyODA=/z/g6sAAOSwjVVVr~vu/$_3.JPG)


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: 131super-man on July 26, 2015, 10:41:39 PM
I'm in for this one . Best man wins


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: jasonh131 on July 27, 2015, 08:27:37 AM
8 bidders in the mix   8)


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Yves on July 27, 2015, 09:18:55 AM
Looks a very nice car!

Luckily the steering wheel is on the wrong side so I won't be tempted!

Garage is full, wallet is empty :-)


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Che on July 27, 2015, 01:38:30 PM
I'd have to sell the Anglia and the Super first! :)

Stunning looking car though, with a bit of notice I would have been seriously tempted.


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Lee donavan on July 28, 2015, 07:07:08 PM
Any one on here going to have a guess of what it may eventually sell for?


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: 131super-man on July 28, 2015, 11:24:07 PM
The best colour in a racing  . UK car in rhd . Service history . Original bill of sale . 2 owners . How many are there like that ? UK economy is in recovery mode . Classic cars are an investment now as money is useless in the bank due to poor interest rates . Good cars hold their money and increase in value every year . You also have something beautiful in your shed to look at on a Saturday night and enjoy on a weekend drive . A bag of money isn't much to look at . This car will set the bar for classic fiat 131 racing . Everyone is hoping it makes a good price except those who are bidding . Let's wait and see .


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: oldskool on July 29, 2015, 06:39:19 AM

That's a nice looking car and if i was still looking to buy i may have bid on this one, trouble is i dont like to bid blind and without seeing something first, just to make sure it's as nice as it looks in the photos, been caught out bin the past >:(, rather a long way to travel to view if from mainland, why is there such a big 131 scene in Ireland?


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: kev131 on July 29, 2015, 07:45:31 AM
why is there such a big 131 scene in Ireland?

That's a very good question....and one I'm not sure I have an answer to. If I was to guess, a lot of the current fans and owners might have grown up with these cars when they were new and Fiat was flirting with the number two sales slot (behind Ford). I dont think Fiats ever had such a high share of the new UK car market.

Other's experiences might have been from when they "achieved" banger status and could be easily bought on low 80s wages.

Maybe now they are seen as a more interesting alternative to the more common classic makes like MG, Ford, Triumph, etc.....?

It would be interesting to hear the views of other Irish owners/ fans.  :)


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: jasonh131 on July 29, 2015, 08:58:24 AM
The best colour in a racing  . UK car in rhd . Service history . Original bill of sale . 2 owners . How many are there like that ? UK economy is in recovery mode . Classic cars are an investment now as money is useless in the bank due to poor interest rates . Good cars hold their money and increase in value every year . You also have something beautiful in your shed to look at on a Saturday night and enjoy on a weekend drive . A bag of money isn't much to look at . This car will set the bar for classic fiat 131 racing . Everyone is hoping it makes a good price except those who are bidding . Let's wait and see .

lets say nearest wins  a 3ma15 polo shirt lol

?15250..


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: bellamacchina on July 29, 2015, 09:57:20 AM
12K,


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: 131super-man on July 29, 2015, 10:26:25 AM
?10k hopefully 🙊🙊


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: c.a.c131 on July 29, 2015, 10:57:14 AM
Last one that came up on ebay UK made almost ?13K 2 years ago :)


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Che on July 29, 2015, 11:19:37 AM
?12.5k


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: mirafioriman on July 29, 2015, 11:45:18 AM
I think it will make between 13 and 15 thousand. It's already at nearly 10,000 with days to go. Being a genuine UK RHD car it will be quite sought after I'm sure.

These prices are great for sellers but not enthusiasts as now only the rich are able to own these cars. Will be interesting in the long term to see if prices continue to rise or whether they level off or come down.

I guess the world economy has a bearing on things such as the European situation and what's going on in China.


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: oldskool on July 29, 2015, 01:46:40 PM

It does look nice, but i get really put off when someone lists a car/item on ebay and then chooses to hide bidder id's, cant see the point of that at all other than it allows shill bidding (getting  mates/friends to run the price up) :o, it's not as if you can see the whole id of a bidder and contact them anyway, not saying that there is shill bidding going on here, just an observation.

If realy that nice i think should make 12 to 14


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: mirafioriman on July 29, 2015, 02:12:47 PM
Must have heard you :) it's no longer a private auction when I last looked earlier.


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: oldskool on July 29, 2015, 04:16:44 PM

Still private, if you click on the bids so far they are all private id bids, which is something the seller sets as an option when listing, i think ebay should not allow this as an option as there is no benefit to the bidder


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: mirafioriman on July 29, 2015, 04:26:09 PM
It's changed back again. Earlier I could see the bidders. Interestingly when it's private it shows you the number of retracted bids which interestingly is high at 25.


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: bellamacchina on July 30, 2015, 08:24:20 PM
Don't worry too much Gerard, you simply can buy my silver Sport in excellent condition for the money you wanna spend at present! Steering on the left side BUT no sagging headlining and an Original Sport engine ::) ::) ;D


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: 131super-man on July 30, 2015, 08:53:49 PM
Hello albert . Hope you are well . I'm sticking to the steering wheels on the right side . I've a few other options at the moment . All rhd cars . Not going to rush .


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: TOAD on July 30, 2015, 09:18:40 PM
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Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Sev131 on July 30, 2015, 11:07:51 PM
Looks very nice. The reg rings a bell from a few years back from ebay.


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: mccabe131 on July 31, 2015, 08:17:10 PM
My only comment anyone who buys a car blind on the likes of ebay, or its like need their head examined, and this is even more revelant when dealing with itilian cars, believe me, just because it looks lovely after a respray and polish means nothing,old saying,dont judge a book by the cover, i very nearly lost my shirt last year on a so called mint Alfasud looked concours in pictured supplyed by owner,had the luck to get a trusted friend to view car on my behalf only to discover it was sows ear made to look like a silk purse, sorry end of rant, be carefull out there 131 friends...


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: bellamacchina on July 31, 2015, 08:22:29 PM
I don't understand that people pay around double the money for an RHD example. I could buy a really beautiful Giulietta Lusso RHD, which is not common in Holland and took it because of the quality. But your decision.

And with the so called mint Sud, there are plenty of examples this way, shiny outside, a rotten pear underneath.


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Lee donavan on July 31, 2015, 09:13:57 PM
Well said Mccabe131! My thoughts since I saw it. Looks too good!


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: oldskool on August 01, 2015, 07:28:58 AM
 mccabe, been there many a time, car looks great in photos and with  flowery description only to find that on inspection it's hiding many faults, filler, rust, accident damage etc and been toshed over with ab quick respray, whoever said the "camera doesnt lie" was talking nonsense, i would never buy or bid on any car unless i viewed it first


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: 131super-man on August 01, 2015, 11:32:43 AM
I have viewed the car and had a good drive in it . The car is one of the best examples you will find . There are no hidden nasties lurking . I wouldn't  have bid ?10k on a 131 if it was a rot box . The car is driving lovely and is mot'd 2 years on the trot at a local government  vosa test station . Unfortunately I don't have enough ?? sitting at this point in time to buy her  . ?10k will not buy this car now as I have been outbid and the piggy bank is limited .  Anyone who hasn't seen the car is welcome to PM me and I can vouch for her . The camera doesn't lie . This car is stunning . Good luck to anyone able to buy her . You won't find better .


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: 131super-man on August 01, 2015, 08:34:23 PM
Albert I understand your thoughts on rhd v lhd but in Ireland we have a lot of A road ie single carriageway . In Northern Ireland with a population of 1.5 million approx we have about 50 miles of motorway and about 20 miles of dual carriageway in total . It's a joke considering in Southern Ireland almost every main city is linked by motorway or dual carriageway built with EU grant money . When driving a lhd car on the left hand side , it's very difficult to see past a large vehicle in front . On the run from armagh up to malin head last year I found on a single carriageway you had to lean across the car , sit about 1 foot across the white line and swerve out slightly to see if it was safe to overtake . This is quite dangerous and becomes a real nuisance , especially when behind a truck or tractor with a large trailer . That's the only real need to have a rhd car here . I can drive both but overtaking is the main issue .


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: mirafioriman on August 01, 2015, 09:42:44 PM
LHD is awkward but the main issue for me is it's an import. A genuine UK car in the UK is a piece of UK motoring history. To me a LHD car isn't quite the same.


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: 131super-man on August 02, 2015, 12:58:38 AM
Yes very true . In the case off the delta integral hf there are some people who consider the original lhd the real deal even though a couple of hundred were converted to rhd in the UK . Purists wouldn't consider a rhd version . It's horses for courses . The fiat 131 is an Italian car . If you apply the same logic  then we are all wrong . It's down to what you feel comfortable with when behind the wheel .


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: oldskool on August 02, 2015, 06:32:16 AM

Always nice to know that a fellow enthusiast has actually viewed the car and can vouch for it, inspires a bit more confidence in bidding blind, sounds a nice car 131 super-man, hopefully it goes to an enthusiast and not a dealer, shame you cant beg steal or borrow a bit more ??.
I prefer RHD if possible but recently bought LHD 131 super mainly because it was a realy nice genuine example and for the ocassional outing not a big deal being a left hooker anyway.
Only a handfull of integrale's were converted from new before handed over to customers, John Whalley Ltd was the appointed Lancia dealer that did a couple and had full factory support, some cars were converted at a later stage by non aproved garages and were not done well.


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Che on August 02, 2015, 08:43:41 AM
LHD is awkward but the main issue for me is it's an import. A genuine UK car in the UK is a piece of UK motoring history. To me a LHD car isn't quite the same.

Personally feel the same, a LHD car would always feel like a compromise, and when spending this kind of money I'd rather wait for the right car.

Same with the Integrale, I've been tempted by one of these, but would want a factory converted RHD


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: oldskool on August 02, 2015, 09:01:36 AM

A couple of years ago i was fortunate enough to buy one of only 2 integrale's converted from new to RHD by John Whalley and it drives no different to a LHD car, this purists thing is nonsense .


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: jasonh131 on August 02, 2015, 01:58:32 PM
We'll al tune in and watch the final ho ha 9.45pm tonight


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Heini131 on August 02, 2015, 02:21:27 PM
We'll al tune in and watch the final ho ha 9.45pm tonight

for sure 8)


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Che on August 02, 2015, 04:17:17 PM
Maybe we'll find out why those coins are stuck on the top of the inner wing :)


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: c.a.c131 on August 02, 2015, 04:55:50 PM
To not show the vin number ! for all the world to see ;D


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Che on August 02, 2015, 05:30:07 PM
Of course, last thing someone who's buying the car would want to see is the Vin number......


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: mirafioriman on August 02, 2015, 05:46:21 PM
What's the interest in knowing the VIN no? Or are people ringing sports now?


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Che on August 02, 2015, 05:49:28 PM
I just found it odd they were glued on, no idea if peoe are ringing them, given what this one will go for can't imagine they would


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: jasonh131 on August 02, 2015, 05:52:07 PM
2 door cl  ;D ;D


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: c.a.c131 on August 02, 2015, 06:53:51 PM
They are not glued on >:( put there when I was taking the photos. I would never put my or anyone else's vin number up on line for all the world to see. I know a 131 Sport vin number to when I see one too ! There where 3 types used on 131 Sport's & this is the first type making it a very rare RHD 131 Sport.


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Che on August 02, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
Sorry fella, no offence intended, just he big old line of gum under the two remaining coins makes it look like they are stuck on, but forgive me, I am clearly in error


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: mirafioriman on August 02, 2015, 08:47:13 PM
Well no more bids


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: jasonh131 on August 02, 2015, 08:48:33 PM
?11211 well it is along way to go and get it and costly ?


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: Heini131 on August 02, 2015, 08:55:46 PM
15834 ? and still some work (money) to go... hanging roof cloth, worn out headlights and the engine bay could do with some attention ;)


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: mirafioriman on August 02, 2015, 08:58:18 PM
Not difficult to get it back from Ireland if you're in the UK. EBay is strange I'd have thought at least one person would be out there and put in a last minute bid.



Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: jasonh131 on August 02, 2015, 09:36:11 PM
Not difficult to get it back from Ireland if you're in the UK. EBay is strange I'd have thought at least one person would be out there and put in a last minute bid.



yes i was waiting for the last second rush..


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: oldskool on August 03, 2015, 08:02:01 AM
Bit surprised it didnt make more, if it was that nice, getting it back to UK  would have been fairly painless, cheap and enjoyable, i bought a MK3 Mini Cooper S back from Ireland a couple of years ago, flew over for ?80, drove to port on boat across to Liverpool and a nice run down to south of England ;D


Title: Re: orange 131 racing en English plates in Ireland on ebay
Post by: bellamacchina on August 03, 2015, 04:54:11 PM
I understand the RHD LHD thing but I prefer the best car available. Te issue Original english interests me less, here in Holland some people also only want Original dutch registered cars. Fact is that the cars were produced in the same factory mostly in Italy, here I also look for the best example available.

This car made a very good price in my opinion, little detailing left. Congratulations for buyer and seller.