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Well, after over two months of talking about it I collected the Panorama on Saturday morning and drove it the 60 or so miles back home. It went a storm!

The initial starting was fine but as it had been sat in a damp concrete garage it was reluctant to run on all four cylinders until it had warmed up a bit, almost as if it was saying that it didn't want to leave.

The guy I got the car from has been the only driver, and has had it since new (April 1981), so is obviously attached to it. His wife had to walk away as I drove off so she wouldn't have to see it leave. All quite upsetting really, but at least it's come to a good home.

So, now the fun part starts! I drove it straight to the MoT tester on Saturday who will test it today. Then I will find out just what I've got!

My father, who collected the car with me (as even I can't drive two cars at the same time!) was very impressed with the condition of the Panorama 'in the metal' and said that it was probably (bodily) the best 131 I'd acquired in recent years! (As compliment indeed considering he has no interest in Italian cars).

I shall post again when I find out what the car fails the MoT on! I think it will need a small patch welded to the offside sill and water in the rear screeen washer bottle, everything else seems fine, but we'll have to see!

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Nice looking car indeed simon. We use to have a 131 panorama 2ltr TC. Was a great going car, and you could have put anything in the back of it.

We sold it about 4 - 5 years ago - the guy drove it come, took the engine and gearbox out of it and scrapped the rest of it (what a shame)

We then bought it back off the breaker and took all the good bits off it - which are still sitting in the shed, and the bare shell was then crushed! :-[

Thanks for the positive comments Chris. Yes, superficially at least (as I have just found out :'() my Panorama is a lovely car.

I spoke to my MoT tester yesterday evening who confirmed the worse. Whilst the top of the car is extremely presentable, the floor needs extensive welding. He tells me that whilst it isn't going to break in half (!) it needs at least eleven, yes, that's eleven areas welded!? :'(? Probably be easier to place the complete floor!

What to do? I'm in a bit of a strange position now. Do I simply forget about repairing it and throw it away, or should I spend a small fortune (which I don't have!) in replacing the floor and tyres, and getting it up to a good roadworthy standard?

All HELPFUL suggestions considered. :( :( :(

Didn't think I'd see the day when you needed advice on a 131 simon?   :o

Think this would be a hard one for people to call - you see the problem is that they're isn't that many left, so yes they are rare!

But on the other hand, there are only a select few who would even dream about buying a 131 panorama (you, me and probably about another 2 people) I know that might seem hard but i'm only trying to be realistic.

So baring all that in mind, is the car worth the ?300 - ?400 of welding. If you can do it yourself then yes definately, but if you have to pay someone to do it then i think you would find it hard to get your money back out of it.

Personally if the car just needed the welding and nothing more, and the cost wasn't over what I estimated above I would get it done and keep it - simply just for the pleasure of saying that I own one.

But definately don't scrap it - give it to some-else if you don't want to carryout the work.

Also simon do you still have the series 1 indicator lenses? If so any chance of me buying them?

Thanks for your comments Chris.

Of course you are right - no-one should spend out more on a car than it's actually worth unless it's a truely historic car and you have pots of money - neither of which (sadly) apply here! :( I've been trying to weigh up the 'cost versus rarity' argument all night, and have decided that I should try to save the car with the least expenditure.

Since my posting this morning I have spoken to my 'friendly but extremely slow' FIAT friendly mechanic and body restorer, who I know will restore the car for me to a standard that I am happy with (and who's work should last a few years too!). This guy has worked on both my Racing and Abarth, as well as Theo's 131 Sport and Gamma Coupe, and we've always been pleased with his work - if not his speed in getting it actioned! ::) Still, I'm in no rush to get the Panorama sorted as long as it's done properly.

So, it looks like I'll have to start saving up again...but at least it will be another 131 saved - besides I need a Panorama to complete my collection of varieties of body.? ;D ;D

It's a hard call Si - The car is in such lovely condition topside. I guess the message is dont expect it in Ireland in May!

Chris - You told me the story of the scrapped 2.0TC before and the hearing dosn't get any easier the second time around - What a waste!

I'd love to get one of these in good nick and fit some Sport trim to it!

I'm going to have to accept that it won't be in Ireland this year :(. Never mind - I'll just have to bring the Abarth - assuming it passes it's MoT in March! ??? ::) At least I now have a choice of cars to leave at home  ::) ::)

Still, the good news is that the Racing started first go last night after being sat for six weeks, so there is some positive news ;D ;D

simon yule ...just have to let one of the salons go to pay for iys restoration
give us a buzz when you come down to marks  ::)
jay

" GUNN METAL ALL THE WAY"   -  I HAVE to agree with that Jason!

The Panorama should be at Mark's tomorrow (Saturday) morning about 10:00am. I'll be there too ...  :)

And here it is being delivered this morning to IRS (www.ItalianRaceServices.co.uk (http://www.ItalianRaceServices.co.uk)) or as we thought we'd rename it "Mark's Saturday Morning Social Club" 

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And here it waits for the work to start....

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Blimey Theo, didn't take you long to get these pics posted!

For those of you who don't know the people in the pic (which as usual Theo has avoided by being behind the camera!), taking the centre pic with the bonnet open, from left to right, young lad in the cap is Aston Hodgkinson; then his Dad, Jason; then me; Mark Nicholson in the red boiler suit; John Church on the right nearest the building.

It was good to see everyone again - Mark even made us a cup of tea! ;D Spent ages talking about 131s - time flew by.

I just hope that the Panorama doesn't stay sat "waiting for the work to start" for too long!

This could be the pre staging area for the english side 3ma convoy.. ;D ;D

It certainly could Jas, but at almost 100 miles from my home, it's a bit far. Besides - you'll need a 131 first! ;D ;D

When I had one, my plan was to modify a Panorama L badge to read ParanormaL.

 :'( Due to having to spend out yet again on my 131 Racing, I am put in the sad position of having to part with this lovely Panorama. :'(

Please contact me if you are interested in buying it.

Simon

simon_ryle@baa.com

Hi,
ıf you need rear screen washer bottle,I can send.

God still cant remember you having this  , and as i was there as well /
 where did it go !

Lovely car... :-*

It went up to the far north of England Jas, never to be seen again unfortunately.

It's still around just awaiting some restoration work that it needed. Its in a queue but house buying and so on got in the way......

And Fiat 130 and Argenta   :(

Come on make the 131 a priority  ;) ;)