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« on: October 16, 2010, 08:41:17 PM »

Ok,

Heres a start thread for this model often mistaken for the 031.

I have taken this quote from the 'Abarth prototype' thread...

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How about the drive line? What does the interior look like. What's in the trunk? Why is there a big air intake in the trunk lid? Somebody have info or pictures?


As we have previously discussed on the forum the drivetrain for the 035 would appear to be the same as for the 031, being a De Tomaso Pantera transaxle driven via propshaft.

The interior was all stripped out with only a basic fabricated dashboard.
 
The front end structure is indeed very similar to the 031 with the same/similar strut brace anchoring onto the slam panel.

There is indeed a large radiator mounted in the boot with ducting opening on the bootlid.

My pictures show some of the features but not the boot/trunk detail.
 


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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 08:44:06 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2010, 08:44:37 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2010, 08:45:16 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2010, 08:54:39 PM »

As Mirafiori76 stated on the 031 thread, if the 035 was one of the 031s converted then how comes before it was painted it had a brown body with a Racing door?

It does appear that the 035 is a wholey different prototype that shares componentry with the 031.

It also shares its 1452cc Supercharged engine with the early Beta Monte Carlo Turbo which changed from Supercharger to Turbocharger during its development.

Someone out there must have more info  Huh   


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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2010, 09:11:40 PM »

Does Abarth not exist any more?

        Write the them, email them they can only say no, but its something.
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2010, 10:09:28 PM »

why do you think they went to the trouble of a transaxle?
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2010, 10:26:29 PM »

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Write to them, email them they can only say no, but its something.

Ha-ha Roger if only, the Modern company does not have the old company records (have learned this from the fact that they approached the private collectors of Abarths for specs and numbers when re-creating the company).
It does have a photo archive but it is made up of old press pictures and some from professional studios back in the past.

I will have a go at contacting them via the official channels to see what if any info they have.

I won't hold my breath though
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2010, 11:03:27 PM »

First, i think the car wasn't brown in the first place, but gun metal grey. Second, i believe it was a Racing body. Or a standard 2-door body anyway. So it was not derived from the 031.
Just looking at the pictures i must say this car has so much similarity to the group 4 cars and less with the 031. Just only look at the lack of chrome on the car.
The drive line could be similar to group 4 cars as well. As is the engine outfit, although it be a 1452 cc engine.

Roger,

No, there has not been a proper Abarth anymore since the 131. This was really the last and the only special build Fiat Abarth ever. Before the cars were modified Fiats. And after the 131 Abarth they were as well. Even the Ritmo/Strada is not a real Abarth race car. Just some optical conversion and a modified engine.

The 131 IS the only car which was inside and outside different from a standard car. Owning one learned me that not even 10 % of the parts are equal to a normal road car. Better, it doesn't even come close to the Stradale version. Maybe 30 % is the same.
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« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2010, 01:20:27 AM »

This from "Abarth Guide" by Alfred S. Cosentino, Nigensha.


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« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2010, 01:22:13 AM »

and,


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« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2010, 07:49:13 AM »

Mike,

Abarth did many many different cars except only modified Fiats. I think you meant here only the 70s and 80s era Huh
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« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2010, 08:11:10 AM »

Albert,

I mean that the 131 Abarth was the only purpose build Fiat. Specialy made bodywork, engines, drive lines, interiors, wheels, windows, etc. Even the Pirelli P7 tires were specially made for the 131. Only thing that was originally 131 was the chassis.
Of course there's the Strato's, the 037, the Delta S4, but these were Lancia's.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2010, 08:24:26 AM »

Mike, I meant the earlier cars as the 204 and 205A,215A, Simca Abarths 1300 and 2000, a lot of Racing cars etc. Here I mean the earlier period. I also mean the 1600 and 2200s which are in my opinion at least as much "own "Abarth as the 131. Engine from the 131 Abarth is also based on the Lampredi block.
Shall we have a nice discussion about this at home Grin
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2010, 08:33:43 AM »

So the 035 had the same drive train as the 031. Now let's see pictures of that to prove Wink Grin Wink Grin
Does anybody have pictures to prove? Shocked
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