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Title: Stripped shell weight? Post by: covjek on October 11, 2009, 05:52:41 PM Hi guys! I`m in the middle of making a rotisserie for my Mk3 and i could use some info on the weight of a naked 4-door shell (no doors,bonnet,boot lid,etc.).Any info would be greatly appreciated.Thanks!
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: sid131 on October 11, 2009, 05:58:35 PM sorry lost here what are you making?
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: bellamacchina on October 11, 2009, 06:07:36 PM I expect around 400kg but other members maybe correct me.
Mick, I expect he means a thing to turn the body around like a chicken in a grill ;D Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: sid131 on October 11, 2009, 06:09:48 PM ok i see, they are easy to make,
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: covjek on October 11, 2009, 06:13:57 PM Thanks for your speedy replies guys ;)! I`m building the thing so i can rotate the shell instead of working under the car.Although it is pretty easy to build,i would prefer to have some figures concerning the weight of the shell,just to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: bellamacchina on October 11, 2009, 06:22:04 PM I expect you understand that a rusty shell to start with weighs less than a fully rebuilded one ;)
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: sid131 on October 11, 2009, 06:25:08 PM you dont need any figures its a 131 a small enough shell just make it & dont be worrying & complicating a very easy job just get the centre of your car & use that as your pivot point, a frame each side & either a center bar or brackets each end, depends on how rotten your front & rear is.
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: Walezy on October 11, 2009, 06:27:59 PM It will be near 220-250kg . When i made my friend's rally honda civic(3d body 1993year) we have checked the weight of bare shell and it was 213kg.
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: covjek on October 11, 2009, 06:39:34 PM Thanks everbody!I assumed that it`s pretty light but a couple of opinions can`t hurt,right ;)? As for rot,there`s plenty.From how it looks now,i`m in for some serious work on this baby.The wheel wells are eaten through completely where they meet the door pillars.
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: Testament on October 11, 2009, 06:55:23 PM my guess would be 500kg
complete car is 1000-1100kg engine+gearbox ~ 200kg interior stuff at least 100kg rear axle 50kg glass 50kg? suspension 50kg? doors/bonnet/boot/front guards 100kg? wheels 50kg so removing all that: 1100-600 = 500kg So probably design the rotisserie for at least 500kg maybe 600kg - you might want to do something inside the car while it is up there. Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: sid131 on October 11, 2009, 07:27:52 PM Hi covjek Yagmur has all the parts you will need, i have got them for my car & they are perfect!
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: covjek on October 12, 2009, 07:03:39 AM Thanks Sid,I did business with Yagmur before and i will certainly order parts from him to avoid all unnecessary patchwork.
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: Walezy on October 12, 2009, 08:24:31 AM I will try to check the weight of the bare shell with suspension and brakes soon as i will be sandblasting such car this week.
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: MarkoH on October 12, 2009, 11:55:53 AM Here is one version of "grill" I have designed with my uncle. Is is adjustable and portable. The stress analysis is also made and it will hold easily a shell with 600 kg. Of course you need one of these grills to both end of your car.
I have all the steel bars cutted to correct length and waiting in my garage. After my current 131 project I will weld this together. 3D Rendering and 2D views: (http://kotisivukone.fi/files/hannulatcom.kotisivukone.com/kuvat/Racing-projekti_kuvat2/kaantopukki.jpg) (http://kotisivukone.fi/files/hannulatcom.kotisivukone.com/kuvat/Racing-projekti_kuvat2/kaantopukki_2d.jpg) Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: covjek on October 12, 2009, 01:44:13 PM Thats great if you have something to bolt it to.In my case the rear of the shell is ok,but most of the front will have to be reconstructed so i`ll have to make some reinforcements before mounting it on the rotisserie.I noticed Walezy has a very interesting system with a central beam going through the windshields and affixed on strut mounts.That is IMHO a better solution since it could relieve more stress from the body then the usual designs.
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: sid131 on October 12, 2009, 07:58:10 PM Hi covjek check your email inbox, i sent you some pics, hope they help.
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: covjek on October 13, 2009, 07:25:02 AM Thanks a ton Sid,these will come in very handy ;). BTW thats a lovely yorkshire terrier you got,he looks like a capable helper :).
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: sid131 on October 13, 2009, 07:53:32 AM He is one of 4 yorkies i have but he is the only one that comes to the workshop if only to attack the air lines lol!
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: theredx19 on October 13, 2009, 09:32:14 PM my guess would be 500kg complete car is 1000-1100kg engine+gearbox ~ 200kg interior stuff at least 100kg rear axle 50kg glass 50kg? suspension 50kg? doors/bonnet/boot/front guards 100kg? wheels 50kg so removing all that: 1100-600 = 500kg So probably design the rotisserie for at least 500kg maybe 600kg - you might want to do something inside the car while it is up there. Leave it outdoors for a weekend and it should be down another 100kg or so Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: Walezy on October 14, 2009, 07:01:50 AM It should not be anywhere near 500kg as i can lift the bare shell with suspension on the front or rear by myself(a little bit but i can do it) and i am no athlete:).
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: wak131 on October 14, 2009, 10:00:06 AM I think it?s something between 400-500 kgs. Once we were lifting a striped 131 shell on a truck with 6 people and it was just acurate.
Title: Re: Stripped shell weight? Post by: wak131 on November 03, 2009, 05:55:36 PM Hey guys, i have a fresh weight info. We completely striped a shell of my old Super and took it to a weighing-machine and it was aprox. 340 kg. Damn, all that interior stuff and axles weight too much! :o
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