Has anyone ever seen these before?

[stathe174]

Take a look here:
http://www.subito.it/accessori-auto/corpo-farfallato-ghigliottine-iniezione-padova-22043913.htm

[mirafiori76]

Well, i haven't seen something like these. But i have something similar in stock (for sale). Two air intakes for Kugelfischer. Size like carburators and they fit on Ritmo 130 TC intake manifold.

[mirafioriman]

Throttle bodies so you can convert to fuel injection. I think Parrish's 131 runs these.

[mirafiori76]

I'd like to have those trumpets. Don't care about the rest for it doesn't fit the 16V head.

[djape1977]

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nice trumpets. i wouldn't mind having them on my "gilotine" setup

[mirafiori76]

Pedja,

Do you mean you have this setup? Where did you get the gilotine slide manifold?

[djape1977]

made locally by a guy who prepares race engines for last 25 years or so. it was on a 1,6 liter twincam Yugo driven in local championship, "hobby class". car was tested and engine power was measured on a rolling road dyno for homologation purposes, it had 167hp. unfortunately, car was crashed on it's second race so i bought the head with intake manifold and injectors. head had some serious work done to it too.
gilotine slide is working fine although it all looks a bit rough around the edges. it was made to work, not to look like a showpiece.
we were talking about some fabrication and i wasn't kidding. pretty much anything you can think of can be made with a grinder, lathe and a TiG welder. never underestimate ingenuity of people with serious lack of funds.

[mirafiori76]

Are you using it now?

[djape1977]

nope.
i bought it with an idea that i might use it one day. as you probably know, it's pretty much unusable for a road going car.
why, do you have some real use for it?

[mirafiori76]

Well, i'm still looking for the proper system to fit my 16V engine. I still need the inlet manifold, the slide trottles and the trumpets. Pretty much everything from the inlet side. If it would fit the 16V inlet then i would certainly be interested. I could modifie the slide trottles.

[djape1977]

then i guess you would be up for something like this


these are for fiat SOHC but we can make one off for 16v 131. pretty much all we need is a intake manifold gasket so we can copy stud and intake channels layout

[mirafiori76]

That looks nice. I would have to take measurements of an inletmanifold. I do have the gasket and can make a copy of that. Then the slide trottle and then some long trumpets with fittings for injectors.
Any idea of costs, Pedja?

[djape1977]

not really. i'll get back to you on that one.
you need to tell me what injectors do you want to use, what size inlet ports

[mirafiori76]

I would have to get back on that one myself. A the moment i don't know any measurement whatsoever. I would have to inform with my parts supplier. See if he has original parts i can ake measurements from. We'll talk later. Would be very interesting 

[131rally]

Does somebody have a source for factory style guillotine manifold for 8valve TC? I have a source for g.4 pump, injectors and fuel lines, so all I need is throttle bodies. Mirafiori76, did you have a first version DCOE throttlebodies for kugelfischer? I might be interested.

Marko