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Title: Radiator swap
Post by: 131 Lover on November 25, 2013, 09:08:13 AM
Hi!
I have a 131CL -81 with a 1600 OHV engine,my plan is to fit a 2l and since the radiator is full off radiator cement shit the solution is to buy a new one.

Does the 2l radiator fit or is it an major operation to make it fit?

Cheers
Alf


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: Yagmur on November 25, 2013, 03:10:59 PM
All same...


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: Heini131 on November 25, 2013, 03:57:49 PM
I did almost the same conversion and the original 1.3 Radiator is still in use

But I am afraid you have to change some other parts  ;) 8)


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: 131 Lover on November 25, 2013, 07:59:21 PM
Hi!
Sorry Yagmur, what i found they seems to be different in size..

The measurements i found is for the -81  CL 1600  292x470x38 and the 2l -82 to -84 supermirafiori has 551x396x40, I can't confirm that they are correct!

What i was looking for if someone did the conversion and if it needed any modifications?

Heini: do you know which parts?

Cheers Alf


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: Yagmur on November 25, 2013, 08:02:26 PM
 I sent my 1.6 rads to Theo and Kev, they fit into their Sports without any problem..


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: mirafioriman on November 25, 2013, 08:04:33 PM
You can fit a 2 litre rad I did it to my 1600cl. It's a while ago but I think the bracket on the crossmember below it needed swapped too. They are indeed different. They look similar but are different sizes on the Fiats at least. The 2 litr one is bigger presumably to increase the cooling capacity for the bigger engine.


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: Heini131 on November 25, 2013, 09:04:36 PM

What i was looking for if someone did the conversion and if it needed any modifications?

Heini: do you know which parts?

Cheers Alf


http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?topic=6399.0

As I already said I use the "small" 1.3 Radiator together with the 2.0 engine and without any problems!  8)

You will need the gearbox of a Racing or something similar. But that means you need another propshaft.
And you need another starter-motor, the one from OHV is on the other site which means modifying the car wire harness  ;)
And you need the complete 2.0 exhaust sytem...

... and don`t forget about the ignition-system  ::)


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: 131 Lover on November 25, 2013, 10:10:49 PM
Thanks Dave and Heini, Yagmur!

Heini: it was just the radiator conversion from a 1600 to a 2l radiato,if it was a directly fit or with some modyfying, the engine conversion is the next problem, but i have alot of spares from 131 2000Tc .

I know that the smaller radiator is enough for a standard 2l but I am after that extra cooling since i am building a performance  Hc 2l engine and i need a new radiator anyway.

I think i will buy the 2l and try and fit it!

Thanks for all your answers...
Cheers Alf


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: Thotos on November 26, 2013, 11:11:49 PM
The radiators for the Sport/Racing (possibly all 2 litre 131s) are taller than the ones for the 1300 and 1600 cars. So fitting a '1600' radiator to a Sport is very easy; either let it hang off the bracket at the bottom or, as I did, fit an extra bracket (I made it out of aluminium) to the bottom of the radiator. Yagmur can supply triple-core radiators so they have a lot more cooling capacity (30% extra theoretically) than the original radiators. Fitting one of the larger radiators to a 1300 or 1600 car is more complicated as it'll involve cutting and welding the bracket on the front crossmember. I would stick with the smaller size radiator but make sure it's a high quality triple core one.


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: 131 Lover on November 27, 2013, 08:21:12 PM
Thanks Thotos!
I will consider your suggestion!

Alf


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: 131rally on November 30, 2013, 08:26:35 PM
Another OT  :D But, was the Abarth Stradale radiator the same as normal 2.0 TC radiator? How about the g.4 radiator? The same, or a special multicore radiator or how was it? It looks the same as normal 2.0TC?


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: Tas131 on December 03, 2013, 06:52:39 AM
Were any of the Euro cars fitted with the wide twinfan radiator? We had them on the later 2 litres with air con.


Title: Re: Radiator swap
Post by: mirafioriman on December 03, 2013, 08:04:26 AM
Never seen one but then I've never had a 131 with aircon