Price gearbox Racing/Sport

[mirafiori76]

Does anybody know what a fair price is for a Racing/Sport gearbox? I have 1 for spares but can sell it. I might have a buyer. But only for a fair price. Not cheap, not expensive.

[bolger]

Is there any significant difference between Sport and Supermirafiori TC gearboxes ?  There are various ratios listed in Haynes, but not for Sport, though. Anyway, I'm not interested, but I think used TC gearboxes in general go for 50-80 GBP in Poland.
 

[djape1977]

in my corner of europe 131/132/argenta gearboxes usually go for around 30e

[106usj]

Usual price for a good working 131 Racing gearbox is about ?70 - ?100.
They are on ebay all the time.
Supermirafiori 5 speed without Abarth quick shift usually ?40 - ?80

[Fiat 131 Abarth#2]

Hi Mike,

i think 30 , 80 , Euro or 50-80 GBP are not the basic price! here examples around the world.

http://www.subito.it/accessori-auto/cambio-fiat-131-abarth-e-racing-piacenza-21717642.htm
300.-

http://www.subito.it/accessori-auto/cambio-fiat-131-racing-e-abarth-ravenna-19488746.htm
800.-

http://www.subito.it/accessori-auto/cambio-abarth-131-palermo-15481001.htm
1000.-

i have two for spare, and one with new (bearing's they cost alone 150,00) and complete set of gaskets!

I think 500.- are a fair price!


Enzo  

[mirafiori76]

Enzo, 106,

Thanks. I think i will stick in the middle. About 250-300 Euro's.
 

[djape1977]

that's just whishfull thinking. do you actually know anyone who has paid that kind of money for 131 gearbox?
when someone advertises it as "abarth" gearbox hey expect to get wast sums. that damn "abarth" shifter is exactly the same as in any argenta and there's plenty of those out there just without abarth in the casting. also, those gearboxes aren't rebuilt, just some of them have been washed.
yes bearings are a bit expensive but 150e is the price if you buy them from same guys that sell gearbox for 1.000e. i have rebuilt several of those gearboxes and new bearings were
45e - main front
32e - main rear
12e - gaskets set

i'm disgusted with people constantly trying to push up the prices of fiat parts. yes, that would make me a bit richer because i have about a dozen of these gearboxes but it also makes maintaining our cars and restoring them expensive. this should be about hobby, not making money. or is it?

[mirafiori76]

Pedja,

Just sold it for 300. The buyer wants to install it in a 124 Spider because it's stronger then the 124 box. He had also contacted a parts dealer here in Holland. That guy asked 400. So i think it's a fair deal.
I agree 800 or even 1000 is way too much.
Thanks 

[106usj]

I can only go by experience, i have bought two spare gearboxs from ebay uk.
Both gearboxs are with the Abarth shifter both came as not reconditioned, so one was straight out of the car and the other was dry stored.
One of them had reverse gear jammed so that cost me ?60 + shipping
The second box works fine and was dry stored ?88 + shipping
I guess i would pay ?200 for a good re-conditioned box.
Enzo _ Subitio prices are always extremely overpriced and give no guide to anyone, most sellers on Subitio are selling at rip off prices
ebay.it is the same half the Racing and Abarth stuff on there is a rip off too.

I think you guys are so used to buying expensive genuine Abarth stuff for your cars you now expect all other Fiat stuff to be in similar price brackets.

[Fiat 131 Abarth#2]

Hi Mike,

the are many guy's with Fiat 124 they build 131 gearbox in their car's

http://www.mirafiori.com/faq/content/131transswap/131transswap.htm

and Pedja all bearings not only main front and main rear!

Enzo  

[djape1977]

@ Enzo
missunderstood you. you were talking about whole set of bearings.
i was just giving you examples of prices. after all in 90% of cases only front one is croaked.

there's some stuff inside those gearboxes that's next to impossible to find new and i had to resort to dismantling several gearboxes to scavange undamaged parts to assemble one that's perfect.

@ Mike
if you can find more customers at those prices i'd be happy to supply as many gearboxes as you want at half that price. i can rebuild them or i can send gearboxes in good working order, straight from the car, test driven to check for problems.

[mirafiori76]

For me it is not important that the shifter carries the name Abarth. I just could sell it an needed a fair price because i had no idea what to ask for it. The buyer is very confident with the price since this gearbox is becoming scarse her in Holland. It was either 300 or 400, so he chose mine.
I can sure use the money but i am not for the lotery price. I think i made a good deal. And that's that

[djape1977]

you did and this story is no longer about your (ex) gearbox.

i guess it depends a lot on prices in general. in my neck of the woods, where average pay is 330e even 30e is too much. in your country, where average pay is at least 5 times higher, it's ok to cost 300.

[mirafiori76]

Pedja,

You seem a bit upset. Why? But i guess you're right. It depends on the country you live in. For you this may be a high price, for Dutch standards it's cheap. Even when parts for 131's, or any old Fiat in that manner, are becoming scarse here. 

[djape1977]

not about you. you're realistic guy and frankly not a good trader, you'll never get rich that way  
i like dealing with guys that consider this to be a hobby, not a way to make living.

i'm annoyed by guys asking 1000e for 131 gearbox. they intentionally push up the prices. then ordinary people look at these ads and price their parts accordingly and in the end you can't buy bloody gearbox for under 1000e. thats why lately people consider a price of 150e for grille for 131 racing to be a fair price. it's not. realistically, it shouldn't be over 50.
last year i bought NOS grille for 132 for 15e. ok, it was a bargain. realistic price is 30e. and i see those advertised for 300e. NUTS.
i sold couple sets of NOS 131/132 pistons lately for 200e per set of 4 with pins and piston rings. one set went to UK to a forum member here. how much did i pay for them? hard to say. i bought a full trailer of fiat parts for 1k euro couple years ago. how did i come up with 200e price? i went to my local fiat parts shop and asked for these pistons. they didn't have them but nearest match were fiat croma pistons. price? 360e for a set of 4. should i have priced my pistons accordingly? yes. but the point was to sell them, not to have them gaathering dust for years. should i have priced them higher because they're not produced anymore? again not, for the same reason.

i guess that if you live in a world of people who pay 150k for abarths than it's ok for a gearbox to cost 1k.
recently i encountered that problem trying to get new or good used taillights for my 124BC. i found out that 200e each is considered a bargain. why? because damn lamborghini uraco used same taillights. suddenly i was in a world of 100k euro cars.