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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2013, 08:08:53 AM »

3MA2013 will not include any high speed contests or similar trials. German law is very strict about that. There will be some amount of "spirited driving", for sure, and we do plan a little fun event; but this will not be on closed roads, and the rules of the road have to be strictly observed. There is no race track in Bavaria  - and Bavaria is no race track!

To make a clear statement, I had this translated into Italian (by google, looks not that bad:)

3MA2013 sar? non comprende i concorsi ad alta velocit? o prove simili. Diritto tedesco ? molto severa riguardo. Ci sar? una certa quantit? di "guida grintosa", di sicuro, e lo facciamo pianificare un piccolo evento divertente, ma questo non sar? su strade chiuse, e le regole della strada devono essere rigorosamente osservati. Non vi ? alcuna pista in Baviera - e Baviera non ? pista!
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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2013, 09:04:51 AM »

Thank you for writing in Italian, but consider that in 20 years of driving (DE) I never got a ticket and when I do the "crazy" I only do it in suitable places.
It's OK, I'll have to settle the road, which is quieter Grin


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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2013, 10:02:09 AM »

I think "doing a crazy" might become the 3MA13 catch phrase.  Grin

I think most attendees understand that all need to respect the rules of the road but I think as organiser Robert you are correct to make your point clearly as you have.

Roll on May.... Smiley
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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2013, 10:45:16 AM »

Robert you can be sure  Roll Eyes

we will drive like the street legality  Lips Sealed

but if we found a closed place (private property) and the owner say OK,  we rock the street.  Grin

Enzo  Wink


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« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2013, 10:14:28 AM »

Some update on the booking situation.

At this very moment we do have 10 (ten) confirmations for 3MA2013. We had blocked 15 rooms with an option to block some more, but this has to happen before April 1.

The lucky 10 are:
- Theo
- Simon
- Kevin&Jacqui
- Phil&Tansy
- Jason
- Heini
- Norbert
- Enzo
- Werner&Gisela
- Robert&Ingrid

So, up to now only 4 ladies  Shocked - 3MA is becoming a boy group thing  Sad

If you are booking your room, please ensure to quote "3MA2013" to get the negotiated arrangement. I hear some confirmations sent out did (for whatever reason) not include the dinner arrangement; however, I talked about this today to the hotel manager and he assured me that everyone on the 3MA2013 ticket will get the full arrangement. If you encounter problems, please do not hesitate to contact me; either via PM or via email (robert.bardorf@gmx.de).

Looking forward to seeing the hotel parking full of 131s,
Robert
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« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2013, 10:30:43 AM »

Hi Robert - To me that sounds like a healthy number of bookings at this stage. I'm sure there will be more closer to the time along with day trippers, sight see-ers, etc... Smiley
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« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2013, 12:17:48 PM »

Before booking and give certainty to participate, wonder what it cost to enroll in the meeting and what it costs the hotel to sleep in a double room.
As regards meals, if they are included in the hotel or if they are carried out in the company in other places.
Also how many kilometers are planned for the revolution (rpm) in the days of the event, to calculate the costs of fuel. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2013, 12:30:37 PM »

There is also opportunity to get close to the park and car carrier (truck and trailer) for the day of the event?
So I value the company of other friends with the 131S Grin
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« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2013, 12:41:36 PM »

Hi Valentino

Have a look at this page and see if it answers your questions.... Smiley

http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm
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« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2013, 08:31:32 AM »

Hi Valentino

Have a look at this page and see if it answers your questions.... Smiley

http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm

The problem is that the page does not allow me to copy and paste and then translate it into Italian. Cry
I also thank Robert for additional information, so if I understood it, the inscription is included in the cost of the hotel, it would be 60euro per person per day (x5 = 300euro) in a double room with breakfast and dinner in the evening, including secure parking and internet access (if single room, 85euro per day).
The lunches at noon are all part and are carried around during the event, calculating an average of 200km per day, we must calculate about 3/4 of fuel (30-35 liters), so I ask if there is gasoline with a high number octane, its cost in that area and the ability to fill the late evening.
Thank you. Cheesy
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« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2013, 08:36:08 AM »

That looks about right Valentino although I had not realised that lunch was included.

Cost is obviously important but I think it's impossible to put a value on these events. They are always lots and lots of fun and it's only a matter of time before Angela Merkel dreams up a way of taxing them!  Smiley

If you come do you think you might have any 131 company from Italy?  Smiley

Che appare sulla destra Valentino anche se avevo non realizzato che il pranzo ? stato incluso.Costo ? ovviamente importante, ma penso che sia impossibile mettere un valore su questi eventi. Sono sempre un sacco e un sacco di divertimento e di solo una questione di tempo prima di Angela Merkel sogna un modo di tassare li! :)Se venite pensi che si potrebbe avere qualsiasi azienda 131 dall'Italia? Smiley
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« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2013, 09:03:21 AM »

Before informing other friends with their 131, I have to understand what it costs the event in general, partly because I then explain to the parties concerned and make them understand that it is a week, then off work. Cry
In addition to these costs, we must consider the possible cost of auto transporter, because if they all come with Abarth Rally, not all aprezzano the highway, so you have to be careful not to exceed the cost too much and the "consumption" of the 131R. Embarrassed
Moral costs hovering around the 1.500euro to crew for me is not a big deal, but for others it can be friends. Lips Sealed
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« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2013, 10:20:34 AM »

Boys,

don't get this wrong - LUNCH IS NOT INCLUDED!!! It never was and it never will! I stated this also clearly in a PM to Valentino:

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Il pranzo non ? incluso.


Don't know how he got that wrong.

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so I ask if there is gasoline with a high number octane, its cost in that area and the ability to fill the late evening.

There is a SHELL station offering "V-Power" near the hotel (1 km), they are open until 10 p.m. as far as I know - will check this ASAP. There is also an ARAL station offering "Ultimate" 7 km away. Fuel costs I do not know what it will be in May; at the moment, stations in Miesbach charge 98 octane petrol at 1.63?, V-Power at 1.74? per liter.
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« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2013, 10:51:15 AM »

V-Power is ok Wink
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« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2013, 11:56:15 AM »

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da: sentrentu su Oggi alle 07:31:32

Il problema ? che la pagina non mi permette di copiare e incollare e poi tradurlo in italiano. Piangere

Il sito ha un built-in funzione translate (alimentato da SLA e Google ). C'? un pannello nella home page con un menu a discesa che consente di selezionare la lingua desiderata. Sembra che questo



o in italiano



Ecco un link al sito web tradotto in http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/&sl=en&tl=it&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

ed ecco un link alla pagina di Kevin inviato

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=it&u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm&usg=ALkJrhi7AZBv6fWXhTxJmkaYR9PR9sR1_g.

Quando si utilizza il built-in funzione di traduzione per il sito web, i messaggi del forum saranno inoltre tradotti (? qui la sede in http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=it&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.131mirafiori.com%2Fsmf%2Findex.php%3FPHPSESSID%3Dj9d94n62v3m34t5ie8o54kvfb7%26)  ma il login non funziona  Embarrassed  Sto ancora lavorando per ottenere che al lavoro ...  Embarrassed

Naturalmente, un modo molto pi? facile per voi ? quello di utilizzare Google Chrome browser per Internet e che tradurre tutto in modo automatico. Se non hai provato ancora arrivare Google Chrome https://www.google.com/intl/it/chrome/browser/?hl=it&brand=CHNG&utm_source=it-hpp&utm_medium=hpp&utm_campaign=it.

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The problem is that the page does not allow me to copy and paste and then translate it into Italian. Cry


The website has a built-in translate function (powered by SLA and Google). There's a panel on the homepage with a drop-down menu that allows you to select the language you want. Looks like this


or in Italian



Here's a link to the website translated in Italian http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/&sl=en&tl=it&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

and here's a link to the page Kevin sent you

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=en&tl=it&u=http://www.131mirafiori.com/travelacc2013.htm&usg=ALkJrhi7AZBv6fWXhTxJmkaYR9PR9sR1_g.

When you use the built-in translation function for the website, the forum postings will also be translated (here's the forum in Italian http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=it&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.131mirafiori.com%2Fsmf%2Findex.php%3FPHPSESSID%3Dj9d94n62v3m34t5ie8o54kvfb7%26) but the login will not work  Embarrassed I'm still working on getting that to work...  Sad

Of course a much easier way for you is to use Google Chrome browser for the Internet and that will translate everything for you automatically. If you haven't tried it yet get Google Chrome at https://www.google.com/intl/it/chrome/browser/?hl=it&brand=CHNG&utm_source=it-hpp&utm_medium=hpp&utm_campaign=it.


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