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Title: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: curt on November 10, 2008, 12:57:44 PM
Anybody see the review of the newest baby arbarth last night on the telly  :D
Personnally i loved it - nice to see the heritage coming back at last  ;D ;D
Only thing was that it featured a strada arbarth -but it looked more to me like a 105TC -any one any other thoughts  ??? ???


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: simon131 on November 10, 2008, 01:19:41 PM
Yeah I saw it. Was a pretty good report I thought :) . Just a shame that the 500 is so small :-\ No good for me as I use the M25 everyday and wouldn't feel very safe in a car of that size - might have to go for the Punto Abarth instead.  ;D ;D



Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: miro-1980 on November 10, 2008, 03:47:42 PM
At least  ABARTH IS BACK !

500, Punto or whatever but ABARTH ! 

( Though 500 with 140HP might be a nice set of wheels ....)

I am considering getting one. Not for daily driving , though friving it in the city might be fun.  There should be Formula 500 Abarth spomnsored by FIAT. It would be fun to participate.

If Abarth ( Fiat is not thinking about it yet maybe we should suggest it)!

Miro   


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: markwilliams131 on November 10, 2008, 07:55:09 PM
i loved the 500 but with a price tag of 13500 pounds makes it well over 20 000 euros over here >:( >:(


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: theredx19 on November 10, 2008, 08:02:23 PM
Mark you are starting to sound like a CAVAN man just cut your matress open and buy one, sure it has an ncap 5 star so it must be safer then a 131  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: markwilliams131 on November 10, 2008, 08:10:16 PM
ya but my 131 didnt cost me 20k t shirt man  :)


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: theredx19 on November 10, 2008, 08:23:10 PM
Thanks but I am not rich like you how can I afford a jumper as I have enough problems buying underwear  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: gay131lover on November 11, 2008, 11:13:06 AM
hi guys o red x 19  i will send down a sheep from donegal that you can knit yourself when i am finished with him baaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa  i am mad i missed top gear(top programme) i just love jeramey clarkson  ::)and the little rat (hammond)


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: curt on November 11, 2008, 05:56:58 PM
Errrmmmm fella's this was about the new baby arbarth and how good it looks and performs and wether or not the featured strada was a 105 TC  which i thought it was -or wether it was a genuine arbarth - not about who can afford it  ??? ??? If you cant afford it then  go to the main dealer and test drive for free - you dont need to buy it  ;D ;D


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: Thotos on November 11, 2008, 05:59:33 PM
I saw the (recorded) program last night and thought the Strada was a genuine 130. The 105 had different wheels and less plastic trim.


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: mclements131 on November 11, 2008, 06:16:23 PM
Anybody see the review of the newest baby arbarth last night on the telly? :D
Personnally i loved it - nice to see the heritage coming back at last? ;D ;D
Only thing was that it featured a strada arbarth -but it looked more to me like a 105TC -any one any other thoughts? ??? ???

 ??? ???  you havent an idea  mate :D 105/// 130  very  diffrant cars's.    i am   a  member  of ecxellant   strada130.co.uk   site  and mich loves 131 sport too and   130 tc  he   owned  12 131  sport   maybe  more :o and  so many  130  strada  he and rob got ecxallant     webssite.   me??  real  happy  to see   130tc on   telly  i had  3  130  tc     and  . 3   131   sport  and mich helped  me find 2   131  sport  this  yr  and   parts  to.. shame    he not  on  these  site  no m,ore :'( :-[ :-\ 
and  theotos  wrong   too  :D 105 and 130  all   ha d   plastics  trim ;D


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: miro-1980 on November 11, 2008, 09:04:18 PM
markwilliams131 :

The price anunced for 500 Abarth in Poland is below 16K Euro.

Miro 


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: markwilliams131 on November 11, 2008, 09:21:25 PM
hey curt i could afford 2 buy 2 ? ?500 abarths 2 ?park beside my 5 ?131 sports
i just dont think its worth 20 od thousad euro but i will be test driveing 0ne first chance i get


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: markwilliams131 on November 11, 2008, 09:33:07 PM
hey miro thats not bad at all  but even if i was 2 come 2 poland and buy 1 when i get it back
2 ireland  i would have 2 pay  vrt  witch on a new car would be around 7 thousand euros  :( :(
hey but hopefulley in a few years we will able 2 buy them for sec hand punto money :) :)


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: theredx19 on November 11, 2008, 09:43:37 PM
Well it would look well 2 500 abarths parked beside all your sports as it must be cool having a different sport for each day of the week  :D


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: markwilliams131 on November 11, 2008, 09:54:44 PM
just a pitty only 1 of them are driveing  :-\


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: Gremlino on November 13, 2008, 11:24:43 PM
Heres a 105TC series 2.

It had Delta-esque alloys and a small high level spoiler...


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: Gremlino on November 13, 2008, 11:29:16 PM
And here is a pic of the 125TC.

Sadly no pics available of the 170TC(2lt 16V), only one car completed by Abarth as a test mule and cancelled by Fiat chiefs...again? ::)


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: Thotos on November 13, 2008, 11:52:36 PM
I never knew there was Series 2 105TCs  :-\
And I've never heard of the 170TC  :o


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: Gremlino on November 14, 2008, 01:33:23 PM
Yes Theo,

The series 2 105TC was not a common sight in the UK, I think most people went for the 2.0L 130TC at the time and the 1.6L 105TC got left behind in the showrooms....a bit like the Stilo a few years later  :D

I first discovered the series 2 car when my old friend Ian Pearce worked on a silver one at his garage.

It was a halfway design between the 85CL and 130TC, no bucket seats, no Abarth steering wheel but it had the same Veglia instruments as the 130TC.
Under the bonnet it looked the same as the series1 car, including the front suspension which was not as 'beefed up' as it was on the 130TC. 


As far as I know there are no surviving pics of the 170TC 'mule'.

It was developed and dropped during the Lancia Racing period of Abarths history, probably due to percieved product clash between it and the Lancia range that Fiats bosses were more in favour of at the time....131 Volumetrico all over again  ???

Little is recorded about the 170TC but it is known that it used the 16V 037 type engine but without supercharging, whether this was fuel injected or carburetted is as far as I'm aware not known.

Shame....another missed oppertunity by the big chiefs  :-\ 


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: jasonh131 on November 14, 2008, 09:08:20 PM
i saw that as well ,, its nicola s car shes down west country its got a few more side strips
than normal
jason 


Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: kev131 on November 14, 2008, 09:22:38 PM
For my part I was aware of the series 2 105TC - Agree they were rare - I went to see one for sale in Cornwall years ago and I felt that there was something wrong but couldn't immediately put my finger on it - Turned to be a cut & shut - Series 1 front end, series 2 rear end and a clear visible welding across the middle of the roof!! ??? ::) I made my excuses and left pronto.

Amazed to hear that there was a 170TC - Now that sounds a mighty beast!

Just one small point Graham - Was there actually a Ritmo/Strada 85CL? I thought that all the 85s were Supers? They were certainly made in series 1 (1500cc with 82 bhp - same engine as Regata 85) and think that they became the Ritmo100S in the series 2? fitted with a 1600TC engine.



Title: Re: a certain programme on bbc2
Post by: Gremlino on November 14, 2008, 09:40:17 PM
Kev,

I can remember my friends old series 2 car and I'm sure it was an 85CL...maybe it was a Super but its 20yrs since we ran around the streets in it  :o.

I was refering to the outer appearance and trim when I made the comparison.

Theres nothing much on the net about the 170TC, like I said it seems to have been a dead end project that time has forgot.