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Hi, I'm looking for an Abarth sump for a 131 sport. I have seen them for sale on ebay I think in Italy in the past but can't seem to find any at the minute.

Can anyone help ???

chris

i think Enzo has one? ask where he got it, he has lots of nice extras on his engine.

Don't know if this is the one you want but it is on ebay right now:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fiat-Abarth-124-131-spider-coupe-Gruppe-4-sump-oilpan_W0QQitemZ300366498688QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item45ef3d0b80 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fiat-Abarth-124-131-spider-coupe-Gruppe-4-sump-oilpan_W0QQitemZ300366498688QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item45ef3d0b80)

Hi, the one I'm looking for is silver / alloy with ABARTH on it in Red. Hope that helps.

Dave thats called a big wing sump i think? saw one for sale on one of the aussie forums, would get screwed by the irish customs if i bought that!

I HAVE THIS BIG WING SUMP ONE MINE SEAT 124 ABARTH YOU MUS MODIFITED THE OIL PUMP

Yes, you must shorten the oil pump pick-up and you must also modify (shorten) the dip stick.  I have a Guy Croft big-wing sump fitted to my car.

Theo whats the benefit of these sumps, do they hold more oil or is it that they are shallower & wider for clearance?

Ground clearance is the main advantage as I can see. Otherwise they need to be carefully buffled to stop all the oil going to one side when driving round corners and starving the engine of oil. The standard 131 sump is very low and sits well below the cross-member so it's easy to damage. If a sump guard is fitted then you loose even more ground clearance and if the car is lowered (as mine) then you'll be dragging the sump-guard on the ground. So big-wing sump is the way to go to get ground clearance.   

so thats me in trouble i have a sump guard from Yagmur & i have lowering springs so this will be fun, should be ok as the celica is nearly on the ground & no real issues with it except the exhaust hitting gate stumps & road humps.

Hi chris,

i think you mean this look Pic's!

This is the address you can to attempt!  http://www.bernimotori.com/abarth_gruppo_motore_it.html

Good luck Enzo ;)

NOW I PUT THIS ON MY 131 16 V ENGINE

Hi Enzo, yes that's the sump that I'm after. Any idea on cost or how to purchase from that company? Have you bought from them before?

chris

looks like you will have to fax the details to them Chris, no email address on the site & minium order of ?80 sure its got abarth on it & will probably be ?800 lol, would be nice to have one though.

@sportman
that is Original dry sump from 16V Gr.4 i think it is difficult to find and not use in 131 sport,  that is a part for euro-millionaires. You make me    jealous!
I have find a pic from your car by GMR.

@chris
i dont no what it cost, i woud purchase it, but than i find it on e-bay. (i have pay 250,-EURO)
and so i have no purchase parts from Berni Motori.

Enzo ;)

dhy makes this parts new because the old when are not any more ok so thy makes replica with better materials.

Enzo will you have to shorten your oil pump stem to fit the abarth sump?

Hello sid,

no! my car is OK for me i have spend a lot of money! He is so i would.

I hold the money for my next Project.

http://www.hawkcars.co.uk/hf3000/STRAT_PRICE_LIST_01.09.pdf

Enzo ;)

Nice project 8)

Enzo what i mean is if i get one of these alloy sumps with abarth letters on it will i have to modify my oil pump on my 1981 131 sport? thanks sid.

Hello sid,

ah, dit you use the Original oilpain from 1300 Scorpione looks mine the oilpump is to modify look pic, you must to file down antriangle and you must make an distance ring wide ca.20mm Look Pic.

Woud you use the Abarth Oilpain from Berni Motori you must make nothing.
It is New Replica Abarth Oilpain.

Enzo ;)

Hi Enzo i have not got a abarth sump but i would like one so which one do i look for that bolts straight on?

Test Test Test!
bolt is only fixed for testing to measure the lowness from the pump in to the Oilpain ;D
Enzo :D