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Title: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: simon131 on May 07, 2010, 07:02:13 AM
Hi All,

I suppose what I have to mention is only 'new' for those of us driving from the UK, but might also affect others hence my mentioning it here ;)

We need to be mindful of various Laws of the Road which are likely to affect us, along with items that we should all have in our cars in case of emergency.

1) A First Aid kit is mandatory in Germany

2) France and Belgium require Hi-Vis vests or jackets to be worn if you have to exit your vehicle on the carriageway. These are 'recommended' in Luxembourg too.

3) I have also just read about a new Law being applied to Germany, similar to that in France, whereby traffic joining a carriageway from the right has 'right of way', that is to say that traffic on any road has to give way to traffic joining it from the right(!) :o Sounds amazing to me, but it might just be true.  This is apparently to slow down the traffic in built-up areas (!). Smashing into the back end of cars tends to do that I suppose ::)

Can anyone please confirm or otherwise these Rules and please advise us if there anything else that we should consider?

Thanks

Simon


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: kev131 on May 07, 2010, 07:24:48 AM
Dont forget it's mandatory to travel at max speed on the Autobahns Si... :D

Thats 118mph for you, 100mph for me and probably 95 for Jason - Theo and Andy will probably disappear at 130mph! ;)


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: djape1977 on May 07, 2010, 07:33:21 AM
3) I have also just read about a new Law being applied to Germany, similar to that in France, whereby traffic joining a carriageway from the right has 'right of way', that is to say that traffic on any road has to give way to traffic joining it from the right(!) :o Sounds amazing to me, but it might just be true.  This is apparently to slow down the traffic in built-up areas (!). Smashing into the back end of cars tends to do that I suppose ::)

Can anyone please confirm or otherwise these Rules and please advise us if there anything else that we should consider?

Thanks

Simon

that rule is general and applicable if there's no traffic signs or streetlights to point otherwise, but there's usually stop signs or inverted triangles to inform you who has to go first.

check in which countries along the way you must have your lights on all the time, even during daytime. when such rule was introduced in Hungary several years ago, hungarian police had a field day with tourists driving withouth lights during day.



Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: eugene on May 07, 2010, 03:28:03 PM
Fire extingusher,proof of ownership of your vehicle,passport,driving licence,a set of spare light bulbs.
Just now can't think of anything else.I will bring a car creeper,socket,screwdriver set.Hopefully i won't need them.Also anyone who has mechanical problems,i will do my best to help out.Hopefully this won't happen to anyone.Eugene


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: jasonh131 on May 07, 2010, 07:36:22 PM
Dont forget it's mandatory to travel at max speed on the Autobahns Si... :D

Thats 118mph for you, 100mph for me and probably 95 for Jason - Theo and Andy will probably disappear at 130mph! ;)
#
If we're going down hill i may hit 97 ;D ;D
and be able to whiz past when they are filling up again :D :D :D
 as i managed amazingly 32.5 mpg :o :o :o :o :o 


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: Firstlady on May 07, 2010, 08:07:50 PM
Because Marko (and perhaps me too) doesn't havea real faith in he's carfixingskills, we decided to take also a reliable car and a TRAILER with us. So the worst case scenario is that we take the Racing for a ride (on the trailer) in Swartswald instead of driving it  ;) ;) ;)


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: curt on May 07, 2010, 08:19:09 PM
Can you get 14 cars on your trailer  ???

My sport never ever let me down all the time I had it -It developed a misfire once going through Liverpool that sounded like a gunshot going off every time I pulled away from traffic lights giving it full beans -but it was great  ;D

I wish you guys all the best for the trip and hope the weather is kind to you .
Who knows maybe next year  ::)

Take care All

Curt

PS lots of piccies required  ;D


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: kev131 on May 07, 2010, 08:44:09 PM
PS lots of piccies required  ;D

You can depend on it Curt...!  ;)


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: jasonh131 on May 07, 2010, 09:50:39 PM
check list:
1) A First Aid kit
2)Hi-Vis vests
3)Spare bulb set
4) All car documents
5) umbrella, rain coat  :(


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: 106usj on May 07, 2010, 10:02:21 PM
Check list for driving in UK/Scotland is as follows.
1. PETROL.
2.FAGS
3.JUMP LEADS.
4.GOOD MUSIC.
Thank God we never joined the (EU) POLICE STATE  ;D ;D


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: MarkoH on May 08, 2010, 08:11:30 AM
As Firstlady told I am going to take a car trailer with me.

If you like, it is fine with me that my car will follow this astonoshing group of 131's working as a "Service Car".

What my wife haven't still realized is that if my Racing works fine, I have a space in my trailer for one more car that I can buy from Germany. As a souvenir...  ;D ;) ;D


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: kev131 on May 08, 2010, 08:38:20 AM
Maybe the Skoda could be a camera car Marko...? ;)


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: MarkoH on May 08, 2010, 08:39:59 AM
Maybe the Skoda could be a camera car Marko...? ;)

Of course - what ever you like.


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: Firstlady on May 08, 2010, 12:59:41 PM
What my wife haven't still realized is that if my Racing works fine, I have a space in my trailer for one more car that I can buy from Germany. As a souvenir...  ;D ;) ;D


Oh yes I have hon. That's one reason why I am travelling with you...to prevent you getting any "souveniers"  ;D :-* :-*


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: sid131 on May 08, 2010, 01:14:27 PM
Hi First lady i reckon you hope the 131 performs well enough not to need the trailer so you can get your self a souvenir! what car will you buy?


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: Firstlady on May 08, 2010, 06:41:50 PM
Hi First lady i reckon you hope the 131 performs well enough not to need the trailer so you can get your self a souvenir! what car will you buy?

What a great idea! I would like to have a Fiat 500 (an old one of course) or Fiat 600...


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: jogo on May 09, 2010, 04:53:09 PM
SEE REPLIES IN CAPS BELOW

Hi All,

I suppose what I have to mention is only 'new' for those of us driving from the UK, but might also affect others hence my mentioning it here ;)

We need to be mindful of various Laws of  Road which are likely to affect us, along with items that we should all have in our cars in case of emergency.

1) A First Aid kit is mandatory in Germany   & REFLECTING WARNING TRIANGLE
1st AID KIT - YES ! IF YOU ARE STOPPED HERE FOR ANY REASON  WHATSOEVER (which seldoms happens; unless you look like a drug-courier with Amsterdam plates) & NOTHING ILLEGAL IS DISCOVERED; THE EXPIRATION DATE ON A 1st AID KIT MAY CAUSE YOU TO "branded as a dangerous-criminal".  :o

BRING ALL REGISTRATION DOCUMENTS; MOT CERT'S & INSURANCE PROOFS + ALL "PERSONAL DOCUMENTS*.  * I KNOW THIS SOUNDS SILLY TO MENTION, but in the ecitement of pcaking for a 113 MeetnIg" ALL SORTS OF IMPORTANT ITEMS MIGHT BE OVERLOOKED.

2) France and Belgium require Hi-Vis vests or jackets to be worn if you have to exit your vehicle on the carriageway. These are 'recommended' in Luxembourg too.  & COME IN HANDY...THEY DEFLECT RAIN & WIND AS WELL AS REFLECTING...
BUT KEEP THEM INSIDE THE CABIN & NOT IN THE BOOT / KOFFER OF YOUR CAR; SO YOU CAN GET TO THEM EASILY WHEN YOU HAVE TO;  DITTO 1st AID KIT !

3) I have also just read about a new Law being applied to Germany, similar to that in France, whereby traffic joining a carriageway from the right has 'right of way', that is to say that traffic on any road has to give way to traffic joining it from the right(!) :o THIS IS NOT TRUE...HOWEVER IT IS A MUCH APPRECIATED COURTESY TO DO SO WHEN TRAFFIC SITUATION ALLOWS ....AS IS SLOWING DOWN ENOUGH TO LET THOSE ENTERING FROM THE RIGHT TO ENTER THE HIGHWAY...WHEN TRAFFIC SITUATION ALLOWS !

Sounds amazing to me, but it might just be true.  This is apparently to slow down the traffic in built-up areas (!). Smashing into the back end of cars tends to do that I suppose ::)
TRAFFIC CIRCLES ARE ALWAYS A BIT IFFY; BUT THE GENERAL RULE IS THAT THE VEHICLE ENTERING THE CIRCLE DOES NOT HAVE PRIORITY !  


Can anyone please confirm or otherwise these Rules and please advise us if there anything else that we should consider?

AUTOBAHN "PARKING AREAS" NOW HAVE "NICE NAMES" SO YOU KNOW WHERE YOU ARE STOPPED IN CASE OF EMERGENCY  ...
YOU CAN EXPECT AN ADAC-HELPER TO ARRIVE; IF YOU CALL THEM FROM A FREE CALL BOX (open the flap & yell into it) IN A SERVICE VEHICLE QUICKLY IF YOU NEED ASSISTANCE...BUT YOU WILL HAVE TO JOIN ADAC TO AVOID PAYING FOR "ROADSIDE-REPAIRS".  IT IS WORTH IT !
ADAC PLUS COVERAGE IS GREAT & ONLY COSTS PENNIES MORE; INCLUDES GETTING YOUR CAR OFF THE HIGHWAY TO THE NEXT "easy to reach" SERVICE SHOP AT NO EXTRA COST:   Yes, there is a km limit to this courtesy, 50km might be accurate..

MOST INNER CITY/TOWN ROADS HAVE 30KPH SPEED LIMITS; ALTHOUGH THAT CAN DROP TO 20KPH NEAR SCHOOLS.  

Thanks

Simon               JOGO


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: jasonh131 on May 12, 2010, 11:51:06 AM
GB stickers and beam defectors  :-\
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=54575 (http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=54575)
some do, some don't ,some get fined as soon as they get of the ferry (France) some don't.
ja


Title: Re: 3MAers - Driving on the Continent
Post by: simon131 on May 12, 2010, 04:38:50 PM
Not an issue with my car, as it has both! Although strictly speaking shouldn't need the beam deflectors in Europe as the lenses are the original Italian ones. ;D