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After scrolling through lots of polls I noticed some great cars, some changed to Abarth replica's and some of you own an Abarth stradale. But, and correct me if I am wrong here, I didn't find a group 4 car owner or his car. Is there anybody out there who owns a real group 4 131 like I do?
I would surely like to have conversations with this person and share some experiences.Perhaps start a new poll? I think it could be very interesting and even useful for others as well.

Did you see this Topic Mike? - This car lives in Ireland but the owner is unfortunately not a member of the forum... :(

It gets a lot of use on historic rallies around Europe.

http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?topic=4033.0

Gee now you have made me think Mike.....not being an expert on either Abarth version I wouldn't like to argue the point...although I've always assumed it was a Group 4 car.  ???

I'd certainly love it in my garage though... :)

Thats a great offer Mike. Have you seen the section of the website which has short articles on the S1, 2, 3 and supercharged 131s?

I've been thinking for a while that the series needs an article on the Abarth. Of course there are a number of books available on the car but it would be great to have a story written about the Abarth experience (Stradale and Rally versions) by an actual owner and forum member.

Would that be something that you'd like to have a go at some time..?  :) You can see the typical length and format. I think it would be a fascinating perspective for 131 fans.

Maybe 131R could write something similar for the SA Racing version...?  ;)

I will do that Kevin.

Fantastic - I can't wait to read it!  :)

Now we just need an article on the 131 Diesel version - Should be no shortage of volunteers for that one!  ;D

Hi Kevin,

I would love to a story about the rally version. Especially because what's written in books is often wrong. I noticed that through the years by own experience and by talking to other owners and suppliers. When I was running my club I wrote stories of almost every 131 in my magazine and I would like to continue that on this forum. Chance for me to inform people all over the world and not just in Holland.
Just tell me what to do.

That would be great to see Mike - Have you seen the other articles?

http://www.131mirafiori.com/131story.htm

They might provide some idea of what has been done already.  They are generally personal stories with some facts and figures thrown in and where the Supercharged version is concerned, quite a lot of research over the years.

The article can be as personal or factual as you like, mostly pictures or mostly text, whatever you like and think might be of interest to fans of the 131. When you have a draft you could send it on to Theo or me for publishing.  :)

That sounds like we have two very interesting articles to look forward to... :)

Great great great project  :o , if you want mike i've got old original pictures of the Calberson sponsor drive with Andruet - Mouton  ;)

Look this Volumetrico via gr 4 :

http://storic-italia.forums-actifs.com/les-realisations-de-storic-italia-f3/ma-131-abarth-volumetrico-t697.htm

Yes , he can have the historic omologation in Italy , that's this work .

I think it is too late - The car has already been modified - I just can't find the thread/photos at the moment.  :(

Just use Word Mike and if you would like any help with editing and adding pictures just let me know.  :)

Hi Mike,

I am looking forward to your article!  Hope you enjoyed the other stories too!
Hope you go well with your GR4, and yes please keep the Walter R?hrl original. I know you did some repro's before so I was very pleased that you also think now to keep the left originals that way :) :) :) And of course I know you too from some years ago...............................

The orange Volumetrico was before already hugely modified, I know it since it was Mauro's car around 10 years ago. It's technique got a revision by then but I wasn't pleased by the bodylooks. Without sidestripes and filled, vinyl roof, trunk without lock, light tan dash with 124 Sport clocks, horrible wheels. The wheels and interior were corrected later but otherwise not. Although I think it is a very good and solid car. Nice to know, it was the last registered Volumetrico in 1984 but quite probably the shell was already produced in 1978 or 79.
Probably this was one of Abarths test cars.

131 diesel story - it is a 131 - pig to start -noisy and rattelly-burns oil-drives and accelerates very slowly
But you do get a fantastic hump on the bonnet  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mike,

Let us talk live soon as we live very near by! English at this forum is good to me, as I try to do mostly the same.

About the Volumetrico's you're not completely right, the Supers were not from 1983 but 1981/82. I'll show you the documents of my cars. Most Racing Volumetrico's were registered years later as they were produced.

I didn't buy Mauro's car, it is another one I found years back at a dutch dealer. I still have contact with Mauro sometimes :)

Don't worry too much about the Abarth article. Just start writing it down. Kevin and Theo will help you eventually with proper english(as they helped me) and put it on the site in the same style as the other articles.

Hi Albert,

How is Mauro? Is he a member of this forum? I lost track of him a few years ago. Could you bring me in touch with him?

I will start with the story soon. It won't be easy to find the time while having a family and running a company. But I'll manage it.

I would like to get back to my first posting. After reading a lot of topics I still haven't found a genuine group 4 car. Am I the only one here? :-[ Surely group 4 car-owners must have come by this great site. But why do they keep those cars for themselves? If it only were for the parts.

In answer to your query Mike, no, the Group 4 owners of the World seem to think that being members of our little community is somehow beneath them ::).

I was always of the opinion that Pat Horan's car in Ireland was a genuine Group 4 car and sometimes his son asks questions on here. The only other Group 4 owner I know is Mick Wood but he sold his a few years ago to fund his Lancia fetish!  ;D

There are a couple of Stradale owners on here though, including me, who share info as and when we are able.

Simon

MY CAR IS A STRADALE TRANSFORMED THO GR 4 SPECIFICATION
KUGELFISCHER INJECTION
COLOTTI GEAR BOX
GR 4 ORIGINAL BREAKES
ORIGINAL GR 4 SUSPENSION

FOR THE MOMENT I MAKES ME A REPLICA GR 4 WITH ORIGINAL SUSPESION/INDEPENDENT REAR AXEL ORIGINAL GR 4/KUGELFIECHER /DRY SUMP/BREAKES
I WILL DHO FIA HISTORIC RALLY'S

I found out that Abarth owners are very into themselves concerning their car. There's nobody who's willing to share information. Let alone selling parts. Strange, I think.

I had a Abarth Stradale for a short time some years ago. Had to sell it... :-[ Now I'm almost finished restoring my group 4 car. Because I have to wait sometimes for new parts I decided to dismantle my replica. This was a Sport I rebuild in OLIOFIAT livery with as much original Abarth parts as possible. This one I own for 22 years now and it was time for a complete restoration.
This will be my second Abarth now. Because I have an original I now can see how everything should be. It will always be a replica, but everything will look like an original.

I have no problem sharing with other enthousiasts.

And also Abarth owners if they don't crush them (like me :'() they sell thm at high prices:
http://www.subito.it/fiat-131-abarth-udine-15466613.htm

abarth is worth repairing no matter how badly crashed

Back in '92 after falling a 25m cliff and crushed before what was left fall into the sea (jumped out last second 3 broken ribs and a concassion) there was no internet or spares for it to find. So it was a total loss. May it R.I.P.

That's a very high price for this one. And it's not even an original anymore. When I had to sell my Abarth I only got half this price.
Hate the wheels on this car. Where are the original cromodora's? And perhaps the pictures are a bit veil, but this doesn't look like the original color. Who knows what else is changed on this one. I'd certainly wouldn't purchase this car.