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Title: Bushings...
Post by: kev131 on October 15, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
I've been looking around for these without success....They are for the anti-roll bar (at the rear). The pictures show 2 of the ones removed from the car....The thickness is 15mm and the outside diameter is 38mm. Inside diameter seems to be 18mm. I need 4 in total.

Can anyone suggest a supplier please?

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/kev132/P1180976.jpg)

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/kev132/P1180974-1.jpg)

(http://i766.photobucket.com/albums/xx305/kev132/P1180973-1.jpg)



Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: mirafioriman on October 15, 2012, 10:26:51 PM
Rear anti roll bar? The 131 doesn't have one?


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: Thotos on October 15, 2012, 10:55:10 PM
Rear anti roll bar? The 131 doesn't have one?

No it doesn't! Unless someone has fitted one (I've seen two 131s with rear anti roll bar). Some Ladas had rear anti roll bars that can be adapted to fit a 131. Probably Kevin means trailing arm bushes? But they are a single piece rubber for the 131 while Kevin's photo shows what looks like trailing arm bushes for a 124. If that's the case then Yagmur can probably supply them. Or maybe Kevin means the front anti roll bar? Yagmur's front anti roll bar bushes look very similar to the photo posted by Kevin

(http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=81.0;attach=6104;image)


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: kev131 on October 16, 2012, 07:21:18 AM
Apologies for the confusing phraseology - It's the anti-roll bar at the front of the car but I wanted to differentiate between the bushings nearest the bumper (not required) from the ones where the roll bar meets up near the track control arm.

These are the actual ones removed from my car and there are two at each side of the car. My mechanic has looked at what Yagmur has shown on his website but doesn't think they are the same.

Maybe Yagmur can tell me...? :)

Any other suggestions welcome too as the suspension is currently dismantled and I need the parts quickly. Thanks...


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: simon131 on October 16, 2012, 12:24:07 PM
Which one of you cars are they off Kev?

Mark at IRS replaced all of the bushes on my Abarth a few years ago but the set up is different on the Abarth to production cars. Not sure that they are all the same across the production range either :-\, but I have a feeling that some fitted to my 131s in the past were actually slightly modified Ford Escort bushes :o :o


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: kev131 on October 16, 2012, 12:48:04 PM
Thanks for the interest Si - My Series 3 Supermirafiori..... ;)

They seem similar to the Sport set up....if that helps ?


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: Sev131 on October 16, 2012, 01:02:35 PM
This might help. May have to re use the steel insert.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Fiat-127-128-NOT-COUPE-131-RUBBER-BUSH-FOR-FRONT-SWAY-ROLL-BAR-TO-ARM-/300619837521?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item45fe56b051


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: kev131 on October 16, 2012, 01:22:15 PM
Thanks Bobby - I bought 4 of these but they are smaller (external measurement) and thicker.  ???

Any other ideas?


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: Sev131 on October 16, 2012, 01:28:36 PM
Might be worth sending measurements here too.

http://www.superflex.co.uk/categories.php?cat=73

Also- http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=rubber+bushes&_nkwusc=rbber+bushes&_rdc=1


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: jasonh131 on October 16, 2012, 06:08:56 PM
saw the superflex bush man at coombe ,said he now does all 131 bushes ''' ;D


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: Robert on October 16, 2012, 06:12:34 PM
I wanted to differentiate between the bushings nearest the bumper (not required) from the ones where the roll bar meets up near the track control arm.

Kevin, I strongly advise to replace all bushings - it's not a cost issue, the bushings cost next to nothing, and the job will be properly done  :)


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: mirafioriman on October 16, 2012, 06:41:59 PM
saw the superflex bush man at coombe ,said he now does all 131 bushes ''' ;D

If so that's great news  :D Hope they make 130 and 132/Argenta ones at some point ;)


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: haggler on October 21, 2012, 03:09:13 PM
Hi i used the bushes from e bay on my 82 sport they fitted fine. The old ones only look different and the mesurments are different due to years of being compressed and wear and tear.



Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: parrish on October 21, 2012, 04:16:32 PM
Kev,
Yagmurs fit a treat, they are slightly different but far superior to the originals, you might need two of the metal tubes as these act as distance pieces, they tend to wear/corrode over time, i had an extra pair made up when i did my anti roll bar bushes, two different diameters of anti roll bear were fitted during the 131 production history.
if you need the metal tubes let me know and you can have them for the cost of postage from Spain.
Steve
PS: I also have surppless to requirements 4 very reasonable original's as shown in your photos.

(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/parrish_028/P4291697.jpg)

(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/parrish_028/P4211606.jpg)

(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/parrish_028/P2181243.jpg)

(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/parrish_028/P2181241.jpg)

(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/parrish_028/PA080663.jpg)


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: kev131 on October 21, 2012, 07:51:18 PM
Hi i used the bushes from e bay on my 82 sport they fitted fine. The old ones only look different and the mesurments are different due to years of being compressed and wear and tear.

That's interesting - Thanks - I will consdier that.  :)


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: kev131 on October 21, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Thanks very much for the offer Steve - And the photos are very illustrative.

I'll get back to you.... :)


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: Sev131 on October 21, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
i have found some brand new bought from fiat and are the same as those on ebay. Ebay ones seems softer rubber but should do the job.


Title: Re: Bushings...
Post by: miro-1980 on October 24, 2012, 12:14:29 AM
Hi

Softer rubber mean softer ride and more gentle driving.

Unless one wants to race soft is good.

Miro

PS : even in racing unless you have unlimited budget for repairs you do not want all polymer bushes. cracking body is a well known side effect of hard bushes