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Title: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: cubanreef on November 06, 2012, 10:33:11 PM
Hi there.
Anyone got any comments about this panorama?
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/348127545.htm?ca=17_s
Its been on Leboncoin for ages. Does anyone know anything about it?
Anyone fancy a run to near Dijon?


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: mirafioriman on November 06, 2012, 10:38:21 PM
Well at that price you can't really go wrong ;)

Depending where you live it's a bit of a trek though to go and get it.

Photos do lie though so you'd really need to see it in person to judge its true condition. I'm sure it will need some restoration/welding work as 99% of them do whatever their price.


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: cubanreef on November 06, 2012, 10:51:41 PM
Yes maybe so but still worth a punt perhaps.

Got a french friend to translate...
Straight translation:
Selling 131 panorama break 1981
1600, 5speed
For restoration or breaking, non runner but starts fine (fuel pump broken)
Little rust. No CT, and log book [ i assume CG means Carte Bleue] to do (sale certificate/ receipt in my name). Not selling parts.
Will swap for old Renault [old as in pre1980 I assume] iMac, iPhone, etc..
First contact by email

I contacted the fella by e-mail; I guess he's had dreamers before because his curt reply was to "sorry, but I only deal with real buyers".  Well now he's said that, he's lit a fire under my ass because I think about that car every minute (well from 9:00am to 5:30pm, Monday to Friday anyway).

Don't know if its come out but perhaps the attached image will explain why I'd be interested in an Azure blue 1600 S3 of any denomination.


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: mirafioriman on November 06, 2012, 10:53:59 PM
Go and get it ;)

Would be great to see another Panorama join the ranks :)


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: mirafiori76 on November 06, 2012, 10:57:38 PM
Yes, you buy it. There aren't much around anymore... :-[


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: c.a.c131 on November 06, 2012, 11:31:09 PM
One of the rarest 131's the Panorama now, I know that in Ireland their is only my one and a LHD too, the only one I know of in the UK is Mirafioriman's one. It's for nothing buy it and it's one of the best S3 colours and the same as the one in your photo :)

I have a very good front and rear bumper off my Panorama as I am putting super bumpers on my one.


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: hammerbeirne on November 07, 2012, 08:18:46 PM
You should buy it its rare to get a chance at buying one of these and at that money it wouldnt buy a windscreen for some cars go for it!


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: cubanreef on November 07, 2012, 10:12:43 PM
Would you believe it but the seller doesn't want to talk to me! At least by email. I can't persuade him I'm a genuine buyer! His last email to me seemed to say he's sold the car, but then  goes on to say he doesn't want to get involved with time wasters. I was asking him if he could get a replacement Carte Grise for it so perhaps he just doesn't want to go to the trouble of organising (or hes not the owner??).
WTF do i do? !!
Suggestions would be welcome.


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: mirafiori76 on November 07, 2012, 10:16:20 PM
Tell him again that your sinceire. Perhaps send a picture of your car(s) along with the next email.


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: c.a.c131 on November 07, 2012, 10:28:04 PM
Would you believe it but the seller doesn't want to talk to me! At least by email. I can't persuade him I'm a genuine buyer! His last email to me seemed to say he's sold the car, but then  goes on to say he doesn't want to get involved with time wasters. I was asking him if he could get a replacement Carte Grise for it so perhaps he just doesn't want to go to the trouble of organising (or hes not the owner??).
WTF do i do? !!
Suggestions would be welcome.

If it was me I would get someone in France to contact him and maybe they will have better luck, is there anyone here that is in France ?????? Some sellers can be very funny if they get calls or email from other countries.


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: cubanreef on November 07, 2012, 10:43:08 PM
OKAY. That's good that its not just me who has difficulties with getting themselves taken seriously. I think I spooked him with the CG situation. I've got a french friend who's a big Autoshite forum contributor so I'll  get him to ask if the panorama is still for sale.
I'll hold off antagonising the seller till I get a reply from my friend.
Fingers crossed cos I'm really on for this.


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: c.a.c131 on November 07, 2012, 11:00:48 PM
Another Panorama it not the Azure blue, but it blue looks like lord blue to me.

Sell ​​FIAT 131 family cars model unavailable in ITALY SWITZERLAND registered in 1981 with 1600 engine SOHC blue color in perfect condition without a spot of rust KM 75000 running at 100% never damaged currently no plates but with the possibility of being ritargata (via documents) and being vintage car stamp duty exemption and discount assicurazione.Car feature

http://www.autoscout24.eu/Details.aspx?id=214860436&cd=634872228930000000


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: mirafiori76 on November 07, 2012, 11:18:46 PM
Another Panorama it not the Azure blue, but it blue looks like lord blue to me.

Sell ​​FIAT 131 family cars model unavailable in ITALY SWITZERLAND registered in 1981 with 1600 engine SOHC blue color in perfect condition without a spot of rust KM 75000 running at 100% never damaged currently no plates but with the possibility of being ritargata (via documents) and being vintage car stamp duty exemption and discount assicurazione.Car feature

http://www.autoscout24.eu/Details.aspx?id=214860436&cd=634872228930000000
Nice one. Wonderful color too. Strange seats however.


Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: cubanreef on November 12, 2012, 12:37:56 PM
Unfortunately, I think I'm going to have to abandon the idea of bringing the car back because I won't have any export papers for it ('cos there's no CG and the seller won't or can't renew his ownership of them). My big worry is that I travel all the way down, pay the man, fil in the french buying certificate, tow the car back up to the french port and get stopped by their customs who then refuse the car's exit. I'd go home empty handed, wihilst having either consigned the car to a government crusher or to an impound area where the costs would escalate.
Its so bloody frustrating, just seeing a 131 sitting there - more so since its the spit of an old one we used to have and at a give away price.
Does anyone have any experience in making exports work given the CG situation?
Are there any French 131 forum bods who can help me?



Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: c.a.c131 on November 12, 2012, 12:55:11 PM
Unfortunately, I think I'm going to have to abandon the idea of bringing the car back because I won't have any export papers for it ('cos there's no CG and the seller won't or can't renew his ownership of them). My big worry is that I travel all the way down, pay the man, fil in the french buying certificate, tow the car back up to the french port and get stopped by their customs who then refuse the car's exit. I'd go home empty handed, wihilst having either consigned the car to a government crusher or to an impound area where the costs would escalate.
Its so bloody frustrating, just seeing a 131 sitting there - more so since its the spit of an old one we used to have and at a give away price.
Does anyone have any experience in making exports work given the CG situation?
Are there any French 131 forum bods who can help me?

There has to be someone on here in France ???
If you did find someone in France could they reg the car and get the paper work ?
Have you tryed a transport company that take cars from France to UK ?

My old 1600/TC came from the South of France in 2009, it was driven back to Ireland with the France V5 in the owners name in South of France.



Title: Re: Panorama on Leboncoin
Post by: sdebez on November 12, 2012, 03:52:31 PM
old car, on trailer customs wont care less. customs are only bothered if its a new car and if the vat has been paid. if your that bothered put english plates on. they would be more bothered if you had 200 cigs in the boot.

ring dvla ask them if a receipt of sale is enough to register it when its here.

i bought an integrale from paris, customs wasnt interested, waved me through, bloke behind me in a ferrari 355 from italy not interested in him either.

imported a 131 from usa, slightly different but not impossible,

As regards contacting the seller use a translator out of the yellow pages, its more personal. they can explain themselves better represent you in a more profesional manor, hence get taken more seriously.

i can only just make myself understood in my own langauge, imagine translating to french, then the french guy doing the same, hope this helps

 
regards sach