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Title: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: mirafioriman on December 08, 2007, 12:00:30 PM
Seen this on the net, who is going to build a replica? I have not got a two door shell so I can not do it, unless anyone has a cheap two door shell of course! http://www.negri.it/abarth/48.htm


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: parrish on December 08, 2007, 02:04:22 PM
I would love to build one.
The Arches and spoilers would be difficult to fabricate, i do see some resemblence to the 'Cologne Capris of the 70's'.
And just what wheels would you fir to it?
Does anyone have a spec on one of these cars.


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: hicky131 on December 08, 2007, 03:22:04 PM
Here you go!

Freshly stolen from the Sporting fiats website! ;D


The 131 SE031 Abarth here (below) in action during the 1975 Giro d?Italia (Tour of Italy) had a V6 engine derived from the Fiat 130 Coupe. The Giro d?Italia was a magnificent event open to race rally and fast road cars alike ? using race circuits and stages all around Italy. In 1975 this 031 won the saloon category of the event with Giorgio Pianta the Abarth test driver at the wheel (later also manager of the Abarth and then Lancia World Rally team efforts).

The 131 body was a good choice for development, with a wide enough engine bay and rear wheel drive. The car's massive tyres were very necessary! Earlier in the 1975 season Pianta had tested the car commenting on the car's lack of stability at high speed. The Fiat V6, derived from their exploits with Ferrari and the Dinos, was designed as a cruiser rather than a motorsport engine and although providing plenty of mid-range torque has been commented on by other drivers as lacking a top end. In the 031 the engine was fitted with triple IDF Webers.

The combination of Mr. Pianta, 031 and Fiat's resources ensured a comfortable saloon class win - despite several reported suspension, oil and fuel consumption, and gearbox problems.

(http://www.sportingfiatsclub.com/models/131/images/P-130-abarth-031.jpeg)
(http://www.sportingfiatsclub.com/models/131/images/SE031small_000.png)

The SE031 was built as Fiat stepped up their budgets for the rally teams in 1974-75. Its engine was based around the type 130 B.000 in the Fiat 130 Coupe (produced between 1971 and 1977). In standard trim this was a V6 (60 degree) with bore and stroke of 102 x 66mm and 3235cc capacity, generating 165bhp DIN at 5,600rpm. Its fuel consumption was just over 19mpg. Which just about left it doomed following the oil crisis of 1973/4.

For the SE031 the blocks were bored out to give 3.5 litres with a special triple IDF Weber inlet manifold, and racing exhaust manifold (as seen in the picture) with a short 3 into 1 exhaust on either side. This engine generated 270bhp at 6800rpm.

....With its rasping V6 exhausts, it was a very noisy car!


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: Tristan on December 08, 2007, 06:42:01 PM
don't show them pics to gerafiori!  ;D

I must say , that it is so ridiculously over-the-top that it's uber cool . I want one.


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: maxi.man on December 08, 2007, 07:37:49 PM
yep i have sum wheels GRAKU"S that would fit neatly under those arches


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: parrish on December 09, 2007, 09:29:34 AM
If you have wheels and i have the will!
Maybe i could start to think about a project?
It has me thinking, certainly would be a lot of work, i would need to find another shell and carry out some radical modifications, might even be better space framed and it clearly isntgoing to be road legal but would have to be built for a saloon car series or something like that.
What size are the wheels that you have? What price for them.
Anyone got a quad cam V6 anywhere with Gearbox? What price?
Steve


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: Baja141 on December 10, 2007, 03:56:47 AM
I can smell you will do it one day Steve .. all it takes is a pool of highly passionate & determined people around you to give moral support.
That's how it normally happen..

Sth radical is interesting..yess very interesting !!..

Good stuff is not born, someone create it..


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: Tristan on December 10, 2007, 10:31:02 PM
quad cam V6? Fiat's little sister , Alfa?


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: theredx19 on December 11, 2007, 01:57:06 PM
Spot on Tristan but was she a quad cam as I need to find my Fiat bible of specs as the dino was quad but the 130 was twin and as for the alfa lump you mention both options are available aswell as that the 75 has the transaxle box you would need. Ask Brensport as I was trying to talk him into building one before ;D ;D


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: mick131 on December 12, 2007, 05:08:42 PM
Ages ago I had a 130 V6 engine with a view to putting it into the 131, but my god it was a heavy old thing  :o....so didn't bother.



Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: gerafiori on December 13, 2007, 10:18:14 PM
i do know where thers a 130 v6 in a box in bits, and i bought
12inch rear and 10inch front 15inch diameter wheels, i have the bits
but its a bit too wide for my likeing .


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: mick131 on December 14, 2007, 05:50:28 PM
What sort of wheels are they Ger and are they for sale ?.


Title: Re: Who is going to be the first to build one of these?
Post by: gerafiori on December 14, 2007, 08:42:05 PM
hi mick,
they are made by image{think british co:}
3 piece rim, 5 spoke, went to tyre shop today, he laughed at me
never seen a rim as wide before except at f1 granprix,
back to ebay for tyres, if no luck with that? i will sell em.?
i do a few pictures tomorrow..............