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UK SILVER FIAT 131 SPORT RHD for sale on uk ebay page 2 half way down in fiat 131 section.
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Guy Croft engine starting bid 2500 UK pounds

Looks real clean check the underside.
Someone will have to dig deep in their pockets for this sale i think !!
6 days 23 hours till we find out what someone will pay for this one.  8)

I reckon this is Simons old silver racing converted to rhd, still has the lhd wipers & carpets.

Yes,thats Simons car as it went to Wales.Now Simon can buy it back in much better condition and in RHD ::).The car should make 10.000sterling.Just my opinion.Eugene

i think thats the reserve Eugene

With regards to the price I should think so 2 as i always say look at the price of non genuine MK2 RS2000 & Mexico Escort custom's.
Apart from the major rust issues we all know in general the 131 Sport/Racing had a superior engine and better spec.

?3500 at the moment and six days to go.

linky link lads

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150447045604&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

i wonder how many watchers as looking at this item?

I reckon it is too.

Im watching it ;D

Me too  ;D ;D ;D

Anyone on the forum going to have a wee bid? also check out the facebook link on the bottom of the ebay page there is another another 35 pics there

?4200 now and 8 bids on !!
This might be a bidding war  :) by the end of play

If all the bits are for real  ;)

on second thoughts it might not be Simons old racing? its listed as a sport

Maybe it's now listed as a Sport because its now a RHD  ;D

Put some under seal back on  :( where in England for gods sake and some of its pealing off already.
  and an old scabby wix oil filter on new ?2500 engine.. 

well nows your chance Jason to get a 131 sport!

i like the no under seal look iv seen alot of rs2000 escorts done like this
and he is not trying 2 hide anything by covering it with sealer that floor was never welded
who ever buys it can always underseal it .this is simons car and was a very good car 2 begin with
as i seen it after he sold it 2 lad who has it now .
i recon eugene is bang on the money at 10 grand 4 days to go lets wait and see

i hope it will go big money thats if you call 10k big because you would spend double that restoring a 131 sport properly

As Mark W has said, it's definitely my old 'Racing'. Looks like it's been given the full resto that the excellent shell deserved, so well done to Dai for that! 8)

I only wish I could afford to buy the car back - certainly had my fingers hovering over the 'bid' icon I can tell you. ;)

The price is going up slow !
On this kind of big money item on ebay we will see what bids are in on the last couple of min's of the sale.
 Thats when the (dreamers) stop bidding and the boy's with the money and some balls start to bid.
We will just have to wait and see.  8)

As i thought things have gone stale on the bidding for now  ::)

Mmm, yeah auctions on ebay tend to go like that. They then seem to go up a good bit in the last few minutes.

Don't know what the reserve is, but I've got a feeling that this one will go unsold with the reserve not met. Have to wait and see ;D

As you said  it all depends on the reserve price ;)

Is any one going to be brave enough. !!
 I heard what the reserve was from a reliable source.
So lets see.
 ;D ;D

 ::) ::)

Come on then share it with us? looks like no one wants to pay more than 5grand for a mint 131 sport thought it would do more than this. If i hadnt brought my Integrale i would have had a dabble on this one ;)

reserve was ?10,000

Times are hard and it just goes to show that cars do not always sell for what the owner asks for them. Ebay is very fickle though and if it was to be listed again who knows could make the same or much more!

I would not waste my time selling a classic car in good condition like that on ebay.
You would get way more on a private sale i think.
I do agree though i thought a more realistic bid would have been placed.
The G.C engine alone must be worth a few bob if its a good one.

Lovely looking car. I would have definately been interested in buying it if I hadn't found mine 5 months ago.

Paul yours is a genuine rhd car so worth much more imo

Well I seriously gave this one some thought .
A few things put me off. As jason said a scabby wix rusty oil filter on a new engine  ??? The engine is a lancia  unit and a build date of 1993  according to the paperwork ???
Has this engine been used  ??? bought it Still in the crate unused -what since 1993 sitting around for 17 years ??? Brand new  ???
The expansion bottle still full of stains from rusty water-it may be an old unit but if you want top money it could have been flushed out .
There may not be any welding but it looks to my unskilled eye a spot of brazing on the bottom of the now drivers door.
I know it is simons old car and of course would take his word for it being solid-but a prospective buyer would be cautious with all the new paint and conversion from LHD to RHD -How good is the wiring and control parts -if you cant even put on a shiny oil filter to sell it - makes me wonder the colour of the oil  ???

i think you just summed up a lot of peoples thoughts there curt

man curt your good :D,,honestly thats exactly what everyone was thinking!!,,the drivers door looks like it has been plated,with a section and not even flushed off.I honestly think thats what it was worth,as it was a mix match sport/racing,LHD/RHD,nice but not nice,car am i making sense :D

i still think it should have made more & is worth much more than the top bid, i would just be concerned that the conversion is a good one & from a forum member thats seen the car it supposed to be a good job, sure if he comes on he will say his piece?
a bit of better advertising & finishing touches on this car & its a winner imo
the forum member in question has a video of the car & its supposed to be good, where is the video???

Pistonhead's or car and classic are good site's i think to sell or buy from.
You know where you stand as a buyer, as the price the seller wants is there in black and white.So you know where you stand.
Also as a seller you can have your mobile or email address and avoid or narrow down the tyre kickers & time wasters with silly bids,most of them anyway ::)
I think ebay is fine for selling classic parts but not classic cars that are mint/good condition.

well said 106!

this is why i would never advertise a car for sale on this site
it was the same when simon was selling this car people nocked it and picked faults with it
not 1 person even went 2 see it  did any body here go see it or phone about it this time round
its no secret what simon sold the car for .the cost of the car and engine was 6grand sterling
how much would ya think someone would charge ya to get it to the condation its in now
convert it to rhd the parts to do it  strip it paint it inside and out another 4 grand id say
i could only dream of haveing 1 of my sports in this condation .i dont have 10grand 2 buy a sport
but if i  did this would be the first car i would go and see .
i no dai the owner of the car and have bought 2 131mirafiori s and a mk1gti in the past
he has also done alot of work on 1 of my cars and i have to say his work is top class
and would recommend him to anybody wanting a 131 restored also  im not just posting it
because he is my friend but ya just cant tell a car from pictures . o ya forgot to say dai is also
a member of this forum 8)

Mark there was only a couple on here picking faults & if the seller dai is a member on here how come there was no feedback? but he left himself open to the said faults, if he expects some one to spend that cash on a 131 sport at least have it ready!! & it wasnt posted for sale here but ebay.co.uk which is quick buck lad i posted is what i think & i am not running down the the car, i wish it made 10k seriously!

Same same Sid.
Mark i also thought his 131 would have gone for more and to be honest i was very disappointed it did not and i never slated the car once in any way, as i thought it looks to be A1.
I just said it would be better to be sold on a another site not ebay so it can hopefully reach money wise what it deserves and thats (more !) than the 5 1/2 k offer it got.
For some reason some (people ) seem to think 131's are worth no more than 4 or 5 k no matter what condition they are in perfect or 1/2 way perfect.  
Also i did know Dai was a member of the site.

Guys I am not trying to offend anyone just making my own personal observations of what perspective buyers would look for .
As I said people who do not know the history of the car would be very wary of its condition unless the always useful 'before' and 'after' pictures were supplied showing all the stages of work and that the work was carried out satisfactorily.
Again i dont mean to offend or criticise anyones work  :)
Does anyone know why the engine was changed anyway ?
I would have thought an all original sport engine would have been just as appealing .

I remember asking about a similar engine on e-bay about 4-5 years ago.
Advice at the time from an expert was that the engine because it had stood so long would have to be fully stripped (bearings and all) and reasembled replacing all gaskets and seals.
Steve

i just think people went from praising the car to criticising it
ok point taken bout the oil filter . but if a genuine buyer was intrested in the car
he did put his phone number on the add 2 answer any questions
and im sure he has a step by step photo of the rebuild because he took them when
he built my car i myself have bought  cars from ebay but not before talking 2 the seller

Right my turn....

First do apologise about the oil filter it seems to have upset a few people....should have polished it ::)
I do argee with some however that they have unskilled eyes....
The engine was changed for more power these cars are ment to been driven not to be in the garage for people with tissue's in their hands... :P

I'm only in wales if anyone wanted to view the car it's not too far away!!! But not one turned up to view yet have the nerve to criticise without even seeing it ???

This is the 4th 131 that i have restored from start to finish on my OWN in my opinion to a high standard. There arn't many that can say that..

I met a lot of good lads in the Fiat run in Ireland last year, when i drove over in my yellow super that i built. I was welcomed by them all and they were all decent, nice lads who never dragged my car down,
Lastly a special thanks to mark and 106ust for not finding faults.........

Hiya Dai - I hope you come again this year!  :)

Well said and thank you for the additional information on the car.
A previous post mentions photographic restoratoin, did you take photos? if so any chance of sharing them with us.
Regards
Steve

The engine was changed for more power these cars are ment to been driven not to be in the garage for people with tissue's in their hands...

And a standard 2.0l sport engine doesnt already have enough  ;D ;D
I can see the chocolate diff effect already  ;D ;D

just for you sid!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbiw_xh3ziE

Even tho its for sid -Im impressed  ;D

As Punch said to Judy THATS THE WAY TO DO IT 8)

Brilliant Mark nothing wrong with that yoke! carbs sound nice, i have 45s for mine happy days

Hell, that thing sounds good !!  8) 8)

in my opinion its a cracking lookin car and a credit to you,,i find with ebay land  most sit back and watch on its first time on and then the second time on make silly offers when it didnt do well the first time(chancers),,a car at this sort of value must be viewed before any judgement is passed  and if i were in the position at the mo i would be on my way to have a look  ,, best of luck with your sale

that car sounds and looks  the business.