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One day...after winning the lottery...i will get me this one... 8)
We discussed the car previously and somebody said there were made two of them. Now, i didn't know that. But can anyone confirm this?

I thought there where only two?

SE031    3500 Ferrari V6 and transaxle,   270bhp

SE035    1400 Supercharged  315bhp

mirafiori76 u got nearly my thoughts! i wanna find that bag! and u try ur chance with lottery..  ;)
i think that there is more than 2 carz where built,, or she was a racing and converted to 031 !

As far as know there were only two prototypes. Each of every one. Just one 031 with engine derived from Fiat 130 and gearbox from Pantera. And just one 035 with 1400 TC 16V and volumex.
Therefor the story of being build two 031's really draws my attention. Never heard a story of two 035's. But if there is a second one i would surely be interested.

Hi! mirafiori76,

I think, there is no second one each other.
SE035 may be in Italy,
and SE031 is owned by Mr. Shiro Kosaka of Gallery Abarth.
Also SE035 is in Torino, Italy (Probably at factory of Cecomp) now.
It was restored by Volta, finished a few years ago.


Romano

Hi Romano,

Yes, I know the SE031 was restored by Volta and placed in a museum. Fortunate, since it was first purchased by a Japanese guy who wanted it to take it back to Japan. Where it doesn't belong. I didn't know the whereabouts of the SE035. Also Luckily that it is in it's home country where it belongs as well.

We have often mentioned the 031 & 035....

http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?topic=1206.0 (http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?topic=1206.0)

But the truth is I don't think we'll ever find out for sure if the 035 is indeed the 2nd 031 heavily modifyed.
I have not been able to find any further info on what happened to the 2nd prototype.
 
Was there any mention of it in the Graham Robson book or was that book soley about the Rally?

There is nothing in any of the Abarth books I have  :'(

I don't think Fiat would have modified a 1975 car to 1979 homologations. And look at the tail lights, these are square. The 035 was just another body shell taken of the production line. Cheaper than converting an old chassis. And look at this picture. It was already painted. Another Racing converted? ;)

mirafiori76,

Sorry ! I misstake !
SE031 is not in the museum. There is still in Cecomp.
And I don't know where is SE035.

Hi Romano,

I thought the museum is in Cecomp? But how about the first picture? This is taken right there, not?

Hi mirafiori76,

The first photography of this page, was taken at Swiss (classic car event).
Then SE031 was back to Cecomp in Torino.
Mr.Kosaka had restored "Canguro" at Cecomp,
so SE031 and Canguro were asked to strage there.
Only Canguro came to Japan, and now in "Gallery Abarth Museum".

Hi Romano,

Anyway, i am glad the car is in Italy where it belongs. Since there is only one 031 my opinion is that it needs to be conserved in a museum. As should the 035 as well. Actually, every prototype should.
Thanks for info. :)

mirafiori76,

I'm sure someday, SE031 will be in Gallery Abarth for public.
Thanks !

Romano,

Read your reply again...What is "Canguro"? :-\

"Canguro" is Alfa Romeo, see here:

(http://www.madle.org/arcanguro6.jpg)

also check the car in the background  ;)

the whole story (in German, with pictures): http://www.madle.org/darcanguro.htm

Hmm, one of best looking Alfa's i ever seen. I'm not into Alfa Romeo's very much, even after three years as an Alfa mechanic. I'll stick with the 031 ;) :) It's got a much nicer a*s. ;D

Just replied on the 035 project. But same questions here. Who owns the car and could that person supply us 131-nuts with pictures from the technical stuff?

Thought it would be nice to post another rare photo... :o

...how about this one?

Here is another one,

Anyone have a picture from the engine bay?

Wow - Fantastic pictures - Love them - More please....

Any video...? That would be something else ... especially to see it's performance compared with some of the other cars on that grid... :)

Kevin,

I'm always searching for pictures of the 031. Found only one video, but i believe you know that one. It's the interview with, i believe, the owner.
Here is another picture:

And another one.

One in black and white.

Here is a nice one from the 035.

Photo from Japanese Magazine "ENGINE" May, 2008 issue.

Looking at the action pictures it seems it was a very rainy day.

Victory!!! We have a winner!!!

Found a picture of the dash. It differs slightly from the ones used in group 4 cars. Also i think these are not the original gauges.

Tought it's time again to share some pictures with you. How about these beautyful hips?

Mirko,

Of course i followed the link you posted about last weekend. Wonderfull pictures. Couldn't resist to download all the pics of the 035. Especially the close-ups are great. Now you can see how terrible shaped this car is.

Notice the differential in the previous picture. It's not the one used on the rallycars.
I love this next picture. How simple it is to put a plate to the doors... ;)

;) , no problemo , it' s wonderfull ...

Some of you probably have this picture...

...and now i found this...

More  :)

...and another one. Most official pictures are in black and white. Now you can see it's original colors  ;)

One more  :)

Historic pictures of the 035 are rare.

Have a look at the bottom middle picture on the cover of this recent book by Limone & Gastaldi...

Its an interesting book and sheds light on the true identities of some well known 'badged' cars.

It also helps you tell the difference between a SE032 and a SE034  ;) :D ;)

Gremlino,

Do you have this book and could you show us pictures from it?

Hi Mike,

Yes I was bought the book as a Christmas present.

I would post some pics but I think its only fair that I do not poach them from the book as I would not want to offend I'ingegnere Limone, the pictures in the book are from his personal archive and not the main Fiat archive.

Sorry but you'll either have to look online for a pictorial review or buy the book..... it is very good.

I hope you see my point  8)

I understand. :) ;)
Do you have a link to see some pictures?

I have had a thorough look but I cannot find a pictorial review anywhere online  :-[

I did find this written review on an Abarth website...
 http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.passioneabarth.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D300:le-abarth-dopo-carlo-abarth%26catid%3D1:ultime%26Itemid%3D50&ei=XyB9TfTZMcW7hAeu-ajsBg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=7&sqi=2&ved=0CFIQ7gEwBg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dle%2Babarth%2Bdopo%2Bcarlo%2Babarth%26hl%3Den%26site%3Dwebhp%26prmd%3Divns (http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.passioneabarth.com/index.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26view%3Darticle%26id%3D300:le-abarth-dopo-carlo-abarth%26catid%3D1:ultime%26Itemid%3D50&ei=XyB9TfTZMcW7hAeu-ajsBg&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=7&sqi=2&ved=0CFIQ7gEwBg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dle%2Babarth%2Bdopo%2Bcarlo%2Babarth%26hl%3Den%26site%3Dwebhp%26prmd%3Divns)

Gremlino,

Do you have an ISBN number or something of this book?

Hi Mike,

I have looked at both the book covers and in the front and rear leafs and I can find no ISBN number or bar code ???

I thought all new books had them but this book for some reason does not.

The Publisher is Automotoretro and the book is listed for sale at various online locations if thats any help.

just found this on flicker

Hi Gremlino,

I will look for it here in the local bookshop.
Thanks

Just found another rare picture. Thought i'd share it with you all  :o

Unique pics ;)

(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd234/mirko34000/315948_205012249563785_6914705_n1.jpg)

Mirko,

This picture i didn't have yet. Thanks for posting. What a great looking car this is. Still a shame it was never used for racing the 24 hours  :-\

Mirko, do you have more pictures from the same stable? Im wondering if the car beside it is g.2 131? It does have rombi corse colours, but the flasher isnt the version they used in g.4

Marko

Marko,

The 035 has nothing to do with any other group 4 car. It's a total new concept by Fiat.

Mikelook to the left of the picture... There is a G2 131...

How can you tell if it's group 2? I see the Rombi Corse colors, but not a front bumper.

From the wheel arch.. It's not a G4 I think?
If I'm wrong I'm sorry...

Could be the one in this picture. Look at side indicator...

Who knows? Could be that one!

I just found some more pictures from 031. D**n, do i want to see this car for real some day  ::)

Another one.

Has anybody here have pictures from the trunk inside or from the engine bay?

just getting her shipped home
(https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/1623773_744651348892803_495901275_n.jpg)

That's a great picture, Jason. Where did you find this one?