131mirafiori forum

Hi All,

Group 4 Wheels is proud to present it's latest offering, the PAG1580, an 8 x 15" and the PAG1590, a 9 x 15", low pressure die cast aluminium wheels.

Both wheels are available with various offsets, pcd's and colours at no extra charge.

8 x 15" - ?250

9 x 15" - ?275

Wheels will be ready for shipping in 2 - 3 months.

Any interested parties can form an orderly queue here.  ;)

8"

Due to their design - a lot of air, lends itself to a light wheel. Estimated weight is 7.5kg for the 8" and under 8kg for the 9".

A racing/track only version will be available which will make them about 650g lighter. If specified at time of order this will be a NO COST OPTION.

PCD's available 4 x 98 to 5 x 130.


Regards

Jonathan

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Hi All,

This is "The Wheel", which will end up on your car.....I hope! 

We've made a few subtle modifications like tapering the back spokes and softening a couple of areas.

In the 8 & 9" picture the wheel is shown with a "block rim form" (no lip), the wheel is cast with the lip, giving that "aged" appearance, this was originally used to attach balance weights to. If wanted, the wheel can be supplied without the lip at no extra cost.

Once machining starts on the dies i will be taking orders....money.

I have an "Ace" up my sleeve which I'll play tomorrow!   .... 

Regards

Jonathan

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 :o.... ;D

Hi All,

If enough interest is out there then I'll do a 10 x 15".

Price wise, looking at about ?315.


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

Sorry, this took loner than expected. FEA (finite element analysis) has now been completed and what we have is a VERY strong and light wheel.

Things will really start to move quickly now with the possibility of the bottom die (face) starting to get CNC'd next week!!!


Regards

Jonathan

put me down for a set, i will send PM

sach.

Hi All,

Added to the range will be a 7", as can be seen in the attached CAD drawing.

7, 8 & 9" versions will all be available at the end of August (crossed fingers) in various offsets and pcd's.

Pricing should be ?235, ?250 & ?275. Payments will be accepted through an updated Group 4 Wheels web site with the facility to accept credit/debit card payments through Visa merchant services. This should be up and running in a few weeks.


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

Please find attached technical drawings for 7, 8 & 9".

FEA (finite element analysis) reports tomorrow with any luck.


Regards

Jonathan

...and 9".

Hi All,

Things should start to move quickly now and all the EN8 steel is in to produce the bottom cores (face). If were lucky, machining may start this afternoon.


Regards

Jonathan

hi ,

im intersted for 4 wheels : 2 front and 2 rear , i have a 131 racing with stradale kit , what's the dimension of wheels for this?

I want 15x8 fron and 15x9 rear , but what's the ET ?

Thanks.

And what's the price shipping to france Lyon?

Hi Tonystar801,

If your car is a "road car" then you're best off running the wheels so that the wheel edge sits just inside of the wheel lip.

See what size your current wheels are and how much further out you'd like them to be, you can then see where they would finish on the inner edge, make sure your car is on full lock so to check for clearance on suspension/springs. Once we have this information along with your current wheels offset, we can work out what's required for the new wheel.

OR....I'M SURE SOMEONE HERE KNOWS THE ANSWER???

Shipping to Europe works out to about ?12 per wheel by Fedex.


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

In the following 2 pictures you can see the split bottom core (face) start it's journey.

On the lathe is the 8", on the drill is the common (7, 8 & 9") outer dish section.


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

Not very exciting photo's I'm afraid, they should start later this week...I hope.

(No.1 is bottom picture & work up).

1. Please find attached the photo of the finishing cut of the lower bottom core face. As you see it is where the 7 8 and 9? upper bottom sections will locate.

2. Please find attached the picture of the underside of the 8? upper section of the bottom core in the cnc.

3. Find attached photo of 7? upper bottom core having the rear location profile machined.


Regards

Jonathan

This should be the top picture, No.3.

After a 2 week factory holiday shutdown, work has resumed in earnest. This shows the upper section ofthe 8" PAG-1580 Bottom core from the underside and about to be bored out to the sprue dimensions.

‎7 & 8" waiting to be machined.

Lower bottom core section completed/ fully turned andwaiting to have all the fixing and location details machined into it.

Attached are the pictures of the turned completed underside of the 8 & 9"upper bottom cores with sprue details in place.

The 7" having the same details machined into it.

Die side castings, yet to be machined.

Top core castings waiting to be machined.

‎8? upper bottom core assembled into shared lower bottom core piece ready to be milled on Monday.

Hi All,

Haven't posted on here for a while and have missed an update...but now armed with a swish new Mac I can bring everyone up to date.

PAG 1580 bottom core

Die side blocks

Die side blocks

PAG 15" shared top core ready to be CNC'd

Shared top core to be CNC'd

PAG 1580 bottom core part way through hand dressing

Shared 1580 top core roughed out

ANDY WORKS ON THE 8 SPLIT PAG RANGE DIE SIDE BLOCKS CLAMPED TO A FACE PLATE TO BE BORED OUT TO CORRECT PROFILE

Shared top core

Shared top core

PAG split die sides machined and ready for 7"

Bottom core with raised plate for "Group 4 Wheels" engraving

‎8" die sides being constructed

‎8" die sides being constructed

Shared top core with markings

‎8" bottom core with logo

‎8" bottom core (front) and shared top core

‎8" set up, ready to go

Wheels are scheduled to be cast next monday with the 7 & 9's following shortly after. Due to the very limited production numbers would all interested parties e-mail me at: info@group4wheels.com


Regards

Jonathan

Die being assembled

Die being assembled 1

Die being pre heated

Top core

It's getting hot in here

Ready to go 1

Now that looks HOT!

1st wheel off the production line :)

8 x 15 with ?1 coin for reference

8 x 15 with ?1 coin for reference 1

8 x 15 side

8 x 15 dish

8 x 15 dish whole with ?1 coin

A few 8 x 15

Lot's of 8 x 15

Wheels are now going for heat treatment then will be back for machining and powder coating to customers requirements (all of which I'll post up).

7's and 9's will follow in the next couple of weeks.

There will be an initial run of just 60 units of each width, 7, 8 & 9 x 15, so if anyone is interested go to www.group4wheels.com , have a look around and go to ordering. This way I can get back to you with an all inclusive price including shipping.

Any other queries: info@group4wheels.com


Regards

Jonathan

7" bottom core on CNC

7" bottom core finished and awaiting G4W logo

9" bottom core starting

9" bottom core taking shape

After a few delays the full set of 7, 8 and 9 x 15" PAG series are now cast and ready for machining and painting to customers requirements.

Hi All,

At long last we should soon have some finished wheels! Couple of pics with some 9" that are half machined.


Regards

Jonathan

Look nice :)

Some nice wheels in the background too ;)

Hi All,

First 9" fitment for a 131.


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

Although the 7's are for Lancia Monte Carlo and the 7 & 8's are for Porsche, I thought you may like to take a peek.


Regards

Jonathan

renault 5 maxi turbo are the white ones shame they only make them 9.5 inch wide at the rear

Hi All,

Although these are Porsche fitment, please find attached lightweight version 8 & 9's in satin silver.


Regards

Jonathan

Couple more...

Hi All,

Thinking about it...yes, 10's... ;D


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

Belonging to a member on here...sporting 9" PAG's.


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

Design has now been finalised for the 10" version...enjoy!

Shown in 5 stud but 4 stud also available.


Regards

Jonathan

and more...

Hi All,

Although in Porsche fitment....gives you something to think about. 7, 8, 9 & 10"


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

Early stages of 10 x 15 PAG Bottom die (face) on the CNC machine.


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

Bottom core after running all night.


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Jonathan

Hi All,

Bottom core finished waiting to be hand finished.


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

10" PAG bottom core back from engraving. Casting to take place week commencing Monday 14th May.


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

The 10" PAG is on schedule to be cast this Friday...at last!

For those interested in the historic Pirelli P7 Corsa: http://www.pirelli.com/mediaObject/pirellityre/ww/en/catalogue/motorsport/p7_corsa_classic/P7_Corsa_Classic/original/P7_Corsa_Classic.pdf


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

10s are being cast tomorrow... ;D


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

10" PAG die being pre heated in preparation for casting. They are being cast right now so will have some great unmachined pics tomorrow...yes they are a day late, sort of  ::)


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

10" PAGs fresh from casting.


Regards

Jonathan

Hello,

Can you supply wheels that their size and look same with the attached picture

By the way my vehicle (Fiat 131 Racing) is not original gr4 or real stradale. Its suspension, differential is stock.

do you know the correct ET (offset) which make look of my car same with the one shown in picture ?

cheers

cypriot

Hi Cypriot,

Yes we can supply these wheels, we're working on a set with your exact same setup at the moment. We can supply 9s and 10s if you can stomach the cost of road legal competition tyres or a rather more palatable (recommended) 8s and 9s (see our web site for more details group4wheels.com).


Regards

Jonathan

Hi All,

What can I say... :o... ;D


Regards

Jonathan

Hello , how much is the weight for one 10 ,thx .

Hi Mirko,

From 8.8kg


Regards

Jonathan