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Im going to have new 131 abarth g.4 fast steerings made in professional gearfactory. Is anybody interested, I need five to make the order. It will cost 480?, and they will be exact copy of the factory g.4 steering. I have one to use as an example. Its going to be aprox 2,85-1 and the set includes only rack and pinion. I used similar in my ex rallycar, had it seven years without any problems. Contact at marko1vaisanen(at)gmail.com

Also, if someone has material of 131 g.2 Racing, Im interested. I do have homologation papers, but they dont include abarth style fender extensions which are commonly seen in g.2 cars.

Marko
www.131abarth.com

Marko,

For those who are not familiar with the issue ( if there are still any).

Original Gr 4 homologation ( dated I April 1976) included a steering rack with 2.85  ratio (2.85 turns lock to lock). with a steering shock absorber. 

Why 2.85 and not standard 3.2 ?

For sport performance you need the steering wheel to be "quicker"  so that the car turns "quicker" . This is essential in performance driving otherwise you cannot conquer tight turns , and controlling the car in a rear slide is much more difficult (sometimes impossible given the speed and friction of a second required to react or quick wheel opposite side "swivels" required to put the car on the right track to put the car into a controlled rear slide on a curve. 

The 2.85 ratio proved to be very good and was never changed. The only other modification to the steering was  six months later (1 October 1976) when reinforced steering rods were homologated.         

This setup proved to work perfectly and required no more changes as long as 131 abarth was actively ralied in European Rally Championship (which preceded WRC).

The steering rack can be installed in 131 Sport (Racing) or a standard civilian 131 . The racks are the same .

It is really a key part if one wants to race/ rally a 131. 
 
Now to business ,

Marco ,  As per previous communication:

Put me as number 1 on the orders list.

Miro

PS: I tried to source it before and fount only one (hard to find source) which wanted 1500 Euro . At 480 it is a real bargain 

I will have one. Should you have enough enquiries please email me on r3bel299@gmail.com.

There is three orders now, so two more to go.

Marko

Only LHD I assume?

This order is for LHD, and ofcourse, there was no RHD g.4 cars ever made. BUT, if there is five independent RHD orders, they can be made also. And, if they are for street cars, they can be made to fit standard steering arms etc. So, if you can get more people in same order RHD is possible also.

The LHD order is going to be made in couple of weeks, I need to strip the g.4 steering in parts and have it sent to factory. Then they will draw plans and start manufacturing. Due the long orderlist, it can take up to three weeks.

Marko

Im going to proceed with the order next week. So, if there is somebody more who wants this, its the time to send e-mail to me.

Marko

I would be keen for the RHD if there is a chance to get them made up

Cheers

MTH

Hmmmm..  ??? Dunno if its enough, if the teeth is done to other end of the rack? Or, should the pinion be in different angle also? I can ask from the factory if they can figure it out. Its possible to be a bit more expensive cause only one is made. I think +100? should cover the difference. Do you have extra rack and pinion? If so, send me one as example, then it will be no problem to make the right rack and pinion for RHD.  :)

Marko

I just called to the gear factory. They told me RHD is no problem. They will use the LHD steering gear as sample, and make it opposite working on RHD steering gear core. It will cost 580? cause of low amount made, if there is five or more it will be the same 480?. I will post the example parts tomorrow to them, so now is the last time to get in to the order. I will post pictures of the parts later today, I stripped the G4 gear yesterday, I need to wash them first to have clear pictures.

Marko

If somebody is interested, the deal is still open for orders.   :)

Marko

hi where are all the guy's dit an order but dont pay yet tho MARKO ?????

Miro-1980, check your e-mail and PM.

Hi

I hope it's not to late but I would like one too. I will send you a PM.

I replied to your PM. And to others, the order will go in few days.

All the people who ordered the steering, have paid the order. So, I will mail the sample rack and pinion to factory tomorrow. But, if somebody still is interested, the order can be taken to the day they actually will make the parts. It will be in about two weeks.

Also, if somebody is interested of this steering later, next year or so, the parts can be done for 580?. And more than five orders for 480?

Marko

The production will start in a week. So, still couple of days to get in to the order.

Marko

I now have many sets of gr.4 steering parts for sale;
- CRMO4 forks for uniballs
- steering damper mountings
soon:
- rest of the special parts to make gr.4 steering

Pictures and price combinations to e-mail, marko1vaisanen(atat)gmail.com

All parts delivered today, except Walker, please send me your address.

I have two fast steerings for sale, 2,5-1, rack/pinion are g.4 spec;
1x new LHD rack/pinion assembled to core, adjusted and ready to drive, 700?
1x used LHD rack/pinion assembled to core, adjusted and ready to drive, 600?
Both include used steering arms and rodends + ok rubbers.

Both can be modified up to g.4 spec + 200? without HD steering arms + 250? HD steering arms and uniballs + 50? with new rod ends.

I will take Stradale and g.4 suspension parts in exhange. Hubs, rear lower arms, etc. Pictures to e-mail.

Did you make it like this:

Yep, like that.  ;)

Then you may call it group 4 steering  ;) :D

THODAY RECIEVED THE STEERING PARTS FROM MARKO VERRY NICE PARTS.

THANKS MARKO

pictures  :P

Yes, pictures please !  :o

The steering damper mountings havent been welded cause everyone wanted to weld them themselves. As the core mounting isnt bent for same reason. All the measures are within 0,1mm compared to originals...

(http://www.131abarth.com/Kuvajemma/2012-10-20%2023.01.54.jpg)

(http://www.131abarth.com/Kuvajemma/2012-10-20%2023.03.58.jpg)

(http://www.131abarth.com/Kuvajemma/2012-11-09%2015.42.27.jpg)

(http://www.131abarth.com/Kuvajemma/2012-11-12%2020.01.34.jpg)

Pictures from the whole set-up, please  ;)

Sorry, all of mine are in pieces at the moment. Have been doing a serial work with them. I dont have the steering rods, except the model pair. I just ordered 6 metres of CroMo pipe so I can start manufacturing a bunch of front and rears. In fact I dont do a thing myself, cause the thread inserts are machined by same guy who has done all the parts, and welding will be done by pro TIG welder, not by me  ;) After I have all the last bits and have one put together, I will put a pic. But I assure you, it will be exactly like original. Only the welding will show its new, the weldings will be better...  ;D

Marko

Mine just arrived!!! Thanks Marko, I have not unwraped them yet as I dont want to dirty them yet  ;D

Fiat 131 Abarth#2, Do you have a fast steering in your car? I have one for you if you need. I could exhange it to some parts you had for sale.

This is with all new parts, for sale, just assembled. On the right is the oem g.4 steering. The left one is sandblasted, welded with the g.4 parts, new slide bushes in both ends, fully adjusted and ready to race with new 2,5-1 rack and pinion. HD steering arms are coming in couple of weeks.

(http://www.131abarth.com/Kuvajemma/2012-11-24%2016.25.13.jpg)

(http://www.131abarth.com/Kuvajemma/2012-11-24%2016.25.35.jpg)

(http://www.131abarth.com/Kuvajemma/2012-11-24%2016.25.45.jpg)

I was just contacted for a RHD fast steering setup. I need aprox five orders to keep pricing reasonable. Are there anyone else interested? Can supply also all other g.4 steering parts and they fit to RHD too. Steering damper mounting, Cromo forks for uniballs and Cromo steering arms etc. Anybody?

I will have one RHD fast steering made. If there are others you can have it for 467.74? 0% for outside EU and with EU company VAT number. For EU private buyers 580? including VAT.

I can also order LHD fast steerings if somebody need it in the same order. Same price for brand new. I have also one used gearing for 400?.

Manufacturin of the parts will start within a week. So last minutes to make orders!!  :o

I still have one used fast gearing for the steering rack,  g.4 spec!

Still available!!!

One RHD fast steering available!

Still one setup available!!

These can be sold too still