Belgrade, Serbia, Fiat (copies) and the Eurovision!

[djape1977]

as it turns out, car is for sale. been to see it today. it was imported from switzerland in 2000, owner claims that in original swiss papers it was 125tc, current serbian papers also say it's 125tc. he's looking to get around 3,5k euro for it. front optional recaro bucket seats, ventilated discs, diferent gearbox than on 105tc, abarth cast on single carb inlet manifold...









wheels are 7*16 but he still has the original ones. never repainted, engine never opened, changed silent blocks and he claims he had to order from italy because ones from 105tc were too small

[Gremlino]

A new one to me, perhaps this is along similar lines to the Swiss spec Integrales with the the Evo shells but running 8 valve engines.

Did the Swiss have strict emissions laws in the 80's? .... that would explain the single carb perhaps

[kev131]

A new one to me, perhaps this is along similar lines to the Swiss spec Integrales with the the Evo shells but running 8 valve engines.

Did the Swiss have strict emissions laws in the 80's? .... that would explain the single carb perhaps

...and to me...I was almost certain that Abarth 125TC = SI Ritmo and 130TC = S2 Ritmo...no ifs buts or maybes....but possibly the Swiss market was slightly different - After all they are known for liking to go their own way...!

[djape1977]

that might be true. apparently these are the same, also swiss
http://www.sparky.ch/autos/FIAT/Ritmo-125-TC-Abarth/520976
http://www.fahrzeugnet.ch/auto/text/FIAT-Ritmo-125-TC-Abarth-Occasion-265759.html

[djape1977]

a friend of mine decided it's time to overhaul his argenta 120ie


by the way, 120ie also has a rear anty roll bar, but unlike volumex or turbodiesel it has drum brakes in the rear

[kev131]

by the way, 120ie also has a rear anty roll bar, but unlike volumex or turbodiesel it has drum brakes in the rear

...from memories of my Dad's S1 2000 carb model, that model definitely needed some anti-roll measures - I don't think I've driven a car since that felt more top heavy! 

Did you see this car for sale...? I was seriously interested (price, condition, provenance & same colour as Dad's old car) but it sold within 24 hours apparently. Seller regrets not asking for more.

http://www.subito.it/fiat-argenta-2000-i-e-unipropietario-verona-14699068.htm

[djape1977]

didn't see it before.
are you after 132 or argenta?
have you seen this one?
http://www.polovniautomobili.com/oglas464283/fiat_argenta/
been there, seen it, excellent car, can be bought at around 4k

[kev131]

What I really want is a 132 2000 but I am having no luck finding the right car..so I began looking at Argentas and the more I look at them the more I'm getting interested. I'm still only at the stage where I would buy the very best for a bargain and ?4k is not a bargain for an Argenta just yet. Whereabouts is it and was it a mafia car in a past life? I see what looks like uzi damage!! 

Thanks for reminding me about the car though. Did you drive it and if yes.... any comments?

[djape1977]

dark blue argenta is in central serbia, around 100km from me. that small damage on right rear side is all damage there is. it was made by a bicycle standing next to it in a garage where it was kept. registered every year since new, driven rarely, 4-5k kms per year.  owned by a village veterinarian as a third car, weddings, funerals and vacations only stuff. seat covers were custom made when car was brand new so underneath you have a brand new seats.
i drove it and it's mostly ok. rear brakes seem a bit vague, probably due to lack of excersise, or i got used to driving cars with all wheel disc brakes? tyres are old, not worn but too old and rubber seems to have gotten hard so it spins rear wheels too easy. would benefit from new tyres and rear brakes overhaul. engine seems a bit lazy with usual oil leak from cam covers. probably just needs to be driven hard for a while to blow out the grit from pistons.
i don't claim it to be perfect but it's damn near perfect, or to be honest, as perfect as it gets for a car that old. on the other hand, if seller wants to get 4k for it, he could spend 500e for a set of new tyres and brakes overhaul

[stathe174]

Even though I'm not a fun of the 132 why do I think that the Argenta is a restyled 132 after all?

[djape1977]

because it is.
95% of mechanical bits are identical and are straight fit from one to another. floor and chasis are the same, front and rear suspension are 90% same, doors from argenta fit 132 and vice versa, i think that front and rear windscreenas are the same but i haven't tried myself

[stathe174]

By the way this is the Greek version of air conditioned LADA 

[djape1977]

 
nice one pal.

workhorse as usual, this time the airconditioner installers...

believe it or not, there actually was air conditioning available for lada in some markets such as middle east and australia. russians ordered from hitachi to make one to fit lada and they imported them from japan and installed them in lada factory in Tolyati.
ever seen one in greece with AC?

[stathe174]

No. With original I mean... There are some with aftermarket ones... Not like the pictures though

[djape1977]

any idea where to get a new or used aftermarket ac unit?