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« on: February 25, 2009, 02:53:31 AM »

I need the following part for my 124/131 Top picture.

This is to fit the part on the bottom picture
 
What is it called in English ?

Miro


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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2009, 04:49:47 AM »

I'd be calling it a flange! Got a 131 rear housing I'm throwing out if you can't find something closer to home.
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« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2009, 04:33:04 AM »

Tho whole housing or just the flounge 

Miro

PS :  (the Polish name is FLANSZA - pretty close , ah, )
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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2009, 02:52:24 PM »

That does not look like the 131 part I've seen. There are finer splines on the 131. This looks more like the one fitted to a Lada/Vaz. No problem to use these parts in a 131, I've done that myself, but from the pictures it looks like you need the flange from an Lada or maybe from Fiat 124.
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« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2009, 05:59:34 PM »

Hello,

The flange you See is a part from a 124/131 Abarth Original.

It is a Part from this Colotti Diff.

T.157 SPERRDIFFERENTIAL 124 ABARTH 1800 = 131 ABARTH
T.196 SPERRDIFFERENTIAL DUO-BLOCK 131 ABARTH

The Gearbox in a Original Gr.4

T.209 UMSETZUNG 5 GANG GERADE Z?HNE FRONTKUPPLUNG MIT 4 GANG DIRECT 131 ABARTH
T.251 UMSETZUNG 5 GANG GERADE Z?HNE FRONTKUPPLUNG MIT 5 GANG DIRECT 131 ABARTH = POLONEZ POLSKI

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« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2009, 12:09:56 AM »

Thanks  Enzo,

I realy have to think about getting an original gearbox as well, but not this season ...

Miro
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2009, 02:36:07 PM »

I need the following part for my 124/131 Top picture.

This is to fit the part on the bottom picture
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What is it called in English ?

Miro

Look here!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Fiat-124-ABARTH-Fiat-131-ABARTH-differential-part_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10076QQihZ003QQitemZ130268433342QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

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« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2009, 07:09:40 PM »

Love the price -   almost 400 dollars US !!! (for a  faunge)  No wonder they want 6000 Euro for the complete  diff. !

Incidentally re :

T.251 UMSETZUNG 5 GANG GERADE Z?HNE FRONTKUPPLUNG MIT 5 GANG DIRECT 131 ABARTH = POLONEZ POLSKI

Does it mean it was used in Polonez and Polski Fiat Huh?? (maybe OBRSO = rally version).

Do you know  where I could get one T 251 or T 209 Huh

Miro 
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« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2009, 08:18:18 PM »

Hello miro

Yes it is a lot of money, at time 345.00 US-Dollar = 271.653543 Euro.

I mean it is not to finde a Colotti-Gearbox,? Colotti makes it only for the 40 Rally-Cars.
It was for Testing build in POLONEZ POLSKI Rally car.
Transmission was Colotti T.209 (it is possible that they used T.247 too)
* There were few different ratios
* Transmission was straight gear dog-clutch (gear can be changed without clutch)
* in T.209 gears were in normal places, in T.247 reverse was on N:1 place, N:5 on reverses place
* All later versions were made by CIMA. Actually Colotti boxes are pretty rare. Early versions had many problems with gearboxes, that problem was quickly cured, maybe moving from Colotti to Cima?
Original Fiat 131 Abarth Gr.4 with Colotti Gear-Box has a fantastic Sound.
Look Pictures from Colotti.

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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 03:20:53 AM »

ENZO,

I LOOKED AT THE COLOTTI SIDE AND FOUND IT ...

Question , with this gearbox (put in standard 131 gearbox housing)  can I use the same flywheel and same clutch assembly ..

What is the part in red circle?



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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 08:26:58 AM »

Thats the lsd here is mine


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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 10:25:59 AM »

ENZO,

I LOOKED AT THE COLOTTI SIDE AND FOUND IT ...

Question , with this gearbox (put in standard 131 gearbox housing)? can I use the same flywheel and same clutch assembly ..

What is the part in red circle?

M?

Hello miro,

I can not say it is going into the Gearbox-Housing CIMA,  but it is better to cal with Colotti.
The part in the circle,  is the part thats sid131 give a Picture. It is a DIFFERENTIAL with Lock.

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2009, 12:35:45 AM »

Enzo ,

I was a faraid it was a part of a gearbox I could not ecoginize .. this makes sense.

Sid131 :  Is this for abarth  or standard 131 diff??

Miro
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2009, 07:49:50 AM »

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