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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2014, 11:18:50 AM »

Aye and even Albert cannot get to the bottom of the numbers! As he says, there "seems" to be more than the 25 if you go by the number that have been for sale? Even where the 4 doors are concerned,there seems to be many combinations where "badging" is concerned (again according to Albert) some have plastic Abarth badges some metal, some a mix of both, some only have the Abarth badge on the l/h front wing others both. The numbering system inside  the bonnet louvre is meant to be on the left, ours has it on both sides! Personally i think its great that although they were only available in one colour/trim co-ordination (well in theory anyway) each car seems to be different. Kinda makes a rare car even more special.  Smiley G
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« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2014, 03:24:34 PM »

Gents,

all the info on the Volumetrico and the Volumetrico Racing is right here on the website, written by a real specialist: http://www.131mirafiori.com/131storyVx.htm

Thanks for reminding us what a great article that is.  Possibly the most informed article on the internet.
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Kevin Doyle
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« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2014, 03:29:31 PM »

Nice to see more 131s coming to this part of the world Grahm. I hope the Italians don't discover how much of their motoring heritage is being exported and slap an export tax on classic cars!!  Smiley

As a matter of interest, how are your 131s selling? The asking prices seem a "little" higher than if someone sourced the cars themselves. Of course you've done the hard work of transit and you have to be paid for your time but I'd be interested if your prices reflect market value with actual sales?
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« Reply #18 on: January 11, 2014, 04:15:59 PM »

Hi Kev. Yes sales of all the Fiats is fairly good, bearing in mind they are not as sought after as things like Fords etc, Price wise? Well yes, obviously our prices will be higher than if you went yourself to get one. Trouble with that, by the time you factor in all the costs, not only of shipping but hotel bills, food, fuel etc while you are driving 100s of kms round Italy, looking at 20 cars to buy 2, yes Italians are just as bad at describing things as people here can be, paying for the deregistration/transfer of ownership and all the other paperwork you have to do to get it out of the country. Then, once here, bringing it up to an mot standard, replacing tyres that are 20 years old, etc etc servicing it,paying for the MOT itself and then the first reg fees, number plates , road tax (if applicable) etc, there is no great saving for all the effort. We then have to try and sell it for something that by the time the government have had their pound of flesh aka vat out of the profit, leaves enough to make it worth it! All in all there is not alot left out of a 6/7K car.                                                  Sales of  classic cars are never a quick thing, people tend to know exactly what they want, the colour combination, model year etc and as such will normally take alot longer over the buying process, than say a 5 year old mondeo, so we know often a particular car may be in stock for a while, its not a problem as we would rather it that way than the pressure sales some people bring to the classic car market. Do our cars represent market value? Well there is a question. A car is only worth what someone is prepared to pay on the day, everyones perception of the value of a classic is different. Did i think a MK1 Escort would ever sell for over ?100K? No. do i think it was worth that? No, but its buyer did, so the market value is entirely driven by the percieved value of each individual car. Ours do sell, yes you can find cheaper or do it yourself for less, if you look hard enough, but they all sell so we cant be to far out  Wink Prices in Italy are definately on the way up with less and less cars being available and cars that are wrecked now selling, my advise to all is buy now before the rest of the world wake up to the fact that a good 131 knocks an escort etc into a cocked hat for a fraction of the price! G
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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2014, 09:04:01 PM »

Guys,

Thanks for praising the Volumetrico article I made a few years ago with help from my italian friend Mauro Balcet, without him it would be nearly impossible to do the research we did. It was difficult to get correct information about Volumetrico's and there are still some gaps. Production figures is Always a problem with Fiat, also nobody knows how many Racings were produced.
Mike(mirafiori76) whatever you will find about those numbers 200 Supers and 50 Racings, it is not official. The highest number I saw on a Super was 185, but did they use all numbers?Huh?? And were Racings separately numbered or not(I expect not) The most cars don't wear their number anymore. But at all the production was very very marginal and the cars almost all sold in the Torino area, the last Racings beinig registered as my one in 1984.

Angus(106usj) Yes, there was a Racing, but I wanna ask something and I asked it already before to other members. Don't see it as critic but everybody, me included, only watches the last pages on the forum. And there is a wealth on interesting 131 information in all that pages further back. This way it keeps of course the forum alive but there are such wonderful discussions written in the past, also about Volumetrico's. My Racing Volumetrico was an attendee on 3MA2010 in Southern UK and is posted in the showroom section. The second Racing Volumetrico I sold to Guy Moerenhout in Belgium. What I wanna tell all members once again here, spend a nice evening or windy/cold day surfing through all those pages and enjoy all interesting discussions/ information!

In the meantime there are a few Racing Volumetrico's less with us, one is now an replica Abarth in France, for sale when I am right.
One is bought in Hungary, taken apart and used as a base for another Abarth replica.............
That I realy don't understand, with other cars they speak about scarce with production figures in their 1000s, even if there were produced 500 it would be extremely scarce and it is far far less what is produced in total. Let's be carefull with the cars that are still under us!

Graham, we have contact!
Feel free to ask everything about these great and special cars!
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