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« on: October 05, 2010, 09:17:27 PM »

One day...after winning the lottery...i will get me this one... Cool
We discussed the car previously and somebody said there were made two of them. Now, i didn't know that. But can anyone confirm this?


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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2010, 11:04:12 PM »

I thought there where only two?

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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2010, 11:38:05 PM »

mirafiori76 u got nearly my thoughts! i wanna find that bag! and u try ur chance with lottery..  Wink
i think that there is more than 2 carz where built,, or she was a racing and converted to 031 !
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2010, 06:42:14 AM »

As far as know there were only two prototypes. Each of every one. Just one 031 with engine derived from Fiat 130 and gearbox from Pantera. And just one 035 with 1400 TC 16V and volumex.
Therefor the story of being build two 031's really draws my attention. Never heard a story of two 035's. But if there is a second one i would surely be interested.


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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2010, 04:09:43 PM »

Hi! mirafiori76,

I think, there is no second one each other.
SE035 may be in Italy,
and SE031 is owned by Mr. Shiro Kosaka of Gallery Abarth.
Also SE035 is in Torino, Italy (Probably at factory of Cecomp) now.
It was restored by Volta, finished a few years ago.


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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2010, 11:12:32 PM »

Hi Romano,

Yes, I know the SE031 was restored by Volta and placed in a museum. Fortunate, since it was first purchased by a Japanese guy who wanted it to take it back to Japan. Where it doesn't belong. I didn't know the whereabouts of the SE035. Also Luckily that it is in it's home country where it belongs as well.
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« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2010, 07:48:41 PM »

We have often mentioned the 031 & 035....

http://www.131mirafiori.com/smf/index.php?topic=1206.0

But the truth is I don't think we'll ever find out for sure if the 035 is indeed the 2nd 031 heavily modifyed.
I have not been able to find any further info on what happened to the 2nd prototype.
 
Was there any mention of it in the Graham Robson book or was that book soley about the Rally?

There is nothing in any of the Abarth books I have  Cry

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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2010, 02:22:11 PM »

I don't think Fiat would have modified a 1975 car to 1979 homologations. And look at the tail lights, these are square. The 035 was just another body shell taken of the production line. Cheaper than converting an old chassis. And look at this picture. It was already painted. Another Racing converted? Wink


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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2010, 07:24:03 AM »

Hi Romano,

Yes, I know the SE031 was restored by Volta and placed in a museum. Fortunate, since it was first purchased by a Japanese guy who wanted it to take it back to Japan. Where it doesn't belong. I didn't know the whereabouts of the SE035. Also Luckily that it is in it's home country where it belongs as well.


mirafiori76,

Sorry ! I misstake !
SE031 is not in the museum. There is still in Cecomp.
And I don't know where is SE035.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2010, 08:26:49 AM »

Hi Romano,

I thought the museum is in Cecomp? But how about the first picture? This is taken right there, not?
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2010, 07:59:38 AM »

Hi Romano,

I thought the museum is in Cecomp? But how about the first picture? This is taken right there, not?

Hi mirafiori76,

The first photography of this page, was taken at Swiss (classic car event).
Then SE031 was back to Cecomp in Torino.
Mr.Kosaka had restored "Canguro" at Cecomp,
so SE031 and Canguro were asked to strage there.
Only Canguro came to Japan, and now in "Gallery Abarth Museum".

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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2010, 08:16:29 AM »

Hi Romano,

Anyway, i am glad the car is in Italy where it belongs. Since there is only one 031 my opinion is that it needs to be conserved in a museum. As should the 035 as well. Actually, every prototype should.
Thanks for info. Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2010, 08:36:37 AM »

mirafiori76,

I'm sure someday, SE031 will be in Gallery Abarth for public.
Thanks !

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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2010, 07:56:22 PM »

Romano,

Read your reply again...What is "Canguro"? Undecided
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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2010, 08:12:03 PM »

"Canguro" is Alfa Romeo, see here:



also check the car in the background  Wink

the whole story (in German, with pictures): http://www.madle.org/darcanguro.htm



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